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Old Dec 18, 2015 | 10:33 PM
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I always take pics of wiring but from now on I'll photograph every step!
The guy used acid on the risers,speedo housing,and the rear turn signal housings, those are the parts with no threads now and the ones I am waiting on.
ok got it- I'd be a bit concerned about the riser threads- that is a major safety issue, if they can no longer bolt down very tight, well, you know what could happen eh? you may be able to use some timeserts and restore the thread strength (search youtube for timesert there are a lot of good vids).

[[EDIT]] I am recanting my suggestion to use timeserts for possible repair of this part- Jim G is right that it still presents a valid safety issue. The only correct path forward is to replace the part.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 05:20 AM
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ok got it- I'd be a bit concerned about the riser threads- that is a major safety issue, if they can no longer bolt down very tight, well, you know what could happen eh? you may be able to use some timeserts and restore the thread strength (search youtube for timesert there are a lot of good vids).
Hey, once the threads have been tampered with, forget about proper torquing via torque wrench; the torque values in a service manual are for stock dimensioned threads, not altered ones. It also creates a safety issue for any future owners of the bike, since they won't know that the threads were screwed up and altered to salvage them.

I really don't like the direction this is going.

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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 09:47 AM
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Hey, once the threads have been tampered with, forget about proper torquing via torque wrench; the torque values in a service manual are for stock dimensioned threads, not altered ones. It also creates a safety issue for any future owners of the bike, since they won't know that the threads were screwed up and altered to salvage them.

I really don't like the direction this is going.

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Hey Jim- Happy Holidays, hope all is well.

Yes I completely agree with you on this and you're spot on.

"Ideally", toss that riser in the trash and have the chrome removal place pay for a new one, or, one for an HD Blackline (since it's already black if that was the intended direction). It's definitely the chrome removal place's screw up- I've had lots of chrome bike parts stripped before and no compromised threads. For example, sets of rocker boxes and covers for my Evo motors. Those have lots of threaded holes for the rockers etc.

If it were me, that is what I'd do- get a new riser part because risers are an extremely critical safety item. it's your steering and potentially your life. Plus if the main riser bolt threads were trashed, the top handlebar bolt threads may be trashed as well. That is also very bad.

I've seen timeserted repairs and they do hold up extremely well when installed properly- personally I have never done it with a set of risers though, and based on your common sense chime in Jim, as well as it being critical that a riser never fails unexpectedly, I'm going to recant that suggestion.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 11:46 AM
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Well hey I'm not trying to insult anyone's mods or parts- I have used those round boards myself back when it was the "cutting edge" and you could only get that type of led. And I'm not naming anyone's products either since there are several of this type ranging from "no name" to "brand name".

JMHO- you can get the newer gen brighter LEDs, which are actually bright as heck in daytime as well, with a projector lens, for less than half the price of the older tech round boards- in some cases it's 1/3rd the cost.

Plus it sort of pains me that places are still charging upwards of $100 for a pair of one-dollar led boards, that are using 5+ year old led tech. come on. I could see the high price tag 10 years ago when this tech was new, but that's well no longer the case. that's all I mean by "junk" since IMO that is a crazy price point for what they are now in the scheme of tech.

If you're not familiar with the different led types out now- there are a lot of new ones- the smd and cob led's put out immensely more light than the older gen versions, and they usually come with internal constant-current driver IC's - which maens they do not fluctuate in brightness with engine rpm / they are always bright.

But unfortunately most all of the newer type of led 1157 bulbs don't fit our small rear tail light housings due to the shallow depth and narrow neck on the reflector. 24V found a reasonably decent set of bulbs that fit without mod, which is a decent choice at much less cost than round boards, and I found a set of the latest "ultra bright" projector style bulbs that fit with very minor mod. And they are re-diculously bright- maybe 3x what you see with the typical round boards and fully visible in direct sun.

So this is just another option presented in case anyone else wants to do the same thing. If you are fine with the round boards and not having to do any modding, that's totally cool too. Happy Holidays

If I insulted anyone using the round boards on their bike my apologies - not intended.
Im not insulted or offended i just thought the junk comment was a little harsh. Look at any thread on here asking about leds and 95% of folks will recommend Custom Dynamics simply because they work great and are a direct fit. They may be old tech as you say but the fact is nobody has had any issues with them. What you wont read on these threads is recommendations for led bulbs that in order to work right you have to modify the housing. On top of that the bulbs you suggest just look like brighter bulbs, they dont have that LED look to them which i think is also a big selling point. Anyways im not knocking your mod just defending those junk leds thats all. Ride on
 
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 12:08 PM
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Hey Jim- Happy Holidays, hope all is well.

Yes I completely agree with you on this and you're spot on.

"Ideally", toss that riser in the trash and have the chrome removal place pay for a new one, or, one for an HD Blackline (since it's already black if that was the intended direction). It's definitely the chrome removal place's screw up- I've had lots of chrome bike parts stripped before and no compromised threads. For example, sets of rocker boxes and covers for my Evo motors. Those have lots of threaded holes for the rockers etc.

If it were me, that is what I'd do- get a new riser part because risers are an extremely critical safety item. it's your steering and potentially your life. Plus if the main riser bolt threads were trashed, the top handlebar bolt threads may be trashed as well. That is also very bad.

I've seen timeserted repairs and they do hold up extremely well when installed properly- personally I have never done it with a set of risers though, and based on your common sense chime in Jim, as well as it being critical that a riser never fails unexpectedly, I'm going to recant that suggestion.

I had the same thoughts, that's why those parts are being replaced.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 12:29 PM
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I had the same thoughts, that's why those parts are being replaced.
Cool- sorry to hear about the parts mishap, hopefully you'll get some type of financial recovery from the stripping place.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jgos929
Im not insulted or offended i just thought the junk comment was a little harsh. Look at any thread on here asking about leds and 95% of folks will recommend Custom Dynamics simply because they work great and are a direct fit. They may be old tech as you say but the fact is nobody has had any issues with them. What you wont read on these threads is recommendations for led bulbs that in order to work right you have to modify the housing. On top of that the bulbs you suggest just look like brighter bulbs, they dont have that LED look to them which i think is also a big selling point. Anyways im not knocking your mod just defending those junk leds thats all. Ride on
Yeh I get it- of course you'll see the typical threads on the round boards because that's all there has been. there are no other mod threads because there has been nothing to mod for. so this is just presenting a new, more modern tech alternative, for far less $. And it's pretty easy to do.

Here's where I am coming from- If you look on ebay these exact same round inserts in 3" for touring HD's are only $14/pair. the exact same board, led chips and 1157 plug, just 3" instead of 2". So why $90+ for a 2" set of insert boards (from various makers) that cost a couple bucks to mfr? To me, that is total junk, JMHO. Now, the nice Ness or C.D. LED units that come with the fancy lens and billet bezel, sure, that's totally understandable for $100+ - those are pretty sharp.

Maybe I'll grab a set of those 3" 1157 insert boards and see if they can be trimmed to fit the 2" lens housing. that would give the same multi-led look at much less cost, no mod to the housing itself, and hopefully with little effort.
 
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as it sets now waiting on some parts to get it completely back together.
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used some old fatboy riser to put it together until my other riser come in.
 

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thanks Dog

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