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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 02:46 PM
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I have a stock 10 Ultra.

I'm going to decat the header, add CVO mufflers, and add a Screamin' Eagle High-Flo K&N Replacement Air Filter Element.

Now the adding of the SE air filter only literature says no ECM change required.

By doing the other couple things, constitute getting a "tuner"

Recommendations or welcome. thanks KL
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 02:50 PM
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You're going to get an opinion every which way on this. I think it would be wrong to say that you NEED a tuner. You will likely be able to ride without any issue, but if you want to take advantage of the changes and actually gain the performance, you'll need to get it tuned.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 05:21 PM
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Best to get a tuner once you open up the air flow through the motor.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kel03
...Recommendations or welcome. thanks KL
As suggested above, you'll get the entire spectrum of answers. Most bikes, even factory stock, will normally benefit from a proper tune using real tuning programs.

Your challenge will be deciphering the differences in pure marketing hype and actual helpful suggestions. Knowledge is your best weapon when it comes to tuning...
 
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Old Jan 19, 2017 | 07:47 PM
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Does your bike have MAF sensor and O2 sensor? If it does, no tuning is necessary, I think.
You can see how it works on scanner (I don't know if automotive OBD2 scanners work for bikes).
 
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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That is what I did to our bikes: header, mufflers and high flow AC. I went with a Power Vision tuner and it's simple to load new maps to the ECM and to do auto tunes.
Go to Dynojet web site and look at some of the videos to see how easy it is.
Good Luck
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 12:56 PM
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IME, there is never a time where buying a proper tuner and tuning a bike is considered a poor decision or didn't notice an improvement.
Best to ask those who have had proper dyno tunes (stockers thru big inchers) done to their bikes for their opinion of whether a tune is worth the investment.
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Old Jan 20, 2017 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FLTRI17
IME, there is never a time where buying a proper tuner and tuning a bike is considered a poor decision or didn't notice an improvement.
Best to ask those who have had proper dyno tunes (stockers thru big inchers) done to their bikes for their opinion of whether a tune is worth the investment.
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Originally Posted by kel03
I have a stock 10 Ultra.

I'm going to decat the header, add CVO mufflers, and add a Screamin' Eagle High-Flo K&N Replacement Air Filter Element.

Now the adding of the SE air filter only literature says no ECM change required.

By doing the other couple things, constitute getting a "tuner"

Recommendations or welcome. thanks KL
I have almost same setup, decat header, cvo mufflers stock baffles,and a high flow air cleaner,ordered the Fp3 today hoping to get rid of some heat on the legs,
 
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Lots of different things will effect the answer will I need a tuner, quality of gas, air temp how you ride, even the weight you carry on the bike . If you not getting signs of preignition you don't need a tuner, But like everyone else said your going to get a big improvement in the way the bike runs and not have to worry about it running too lean to the point of engine damage with a tuner
I am using power vision on a couple of my bikes and have een very happy with it, but a call to fuel moto with a conversation on what you have planned for your bike and what you expect will get you an honest answer on what tuner would work best for you.
 
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Thanks all, sounds like I need to make some calls to tuner mfg's to talk.
 
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