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Using High Beam
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From: BlueGrass
That has to be the stupidest thing I have ever read on this forum. Trains have lights and horns way brighter and louder than any Harley, somehow they still mage to hit idiots.
Maybe try a drum set, might help with those pesky blind drivers.
Seriously if idiots are not looking at you they wont see that blinding light you are shining at everyone.
And "sorry you don't matter" attitude is what will get you run over by a pissed of driver. I for one can't stand it when people think just because they chose to ride on two wheels, everybody else must suffer their shitty attitude.
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From: VW Ohio
Brights on,during daylight,always. Our riding course instructor ,both basic and advanced,suggested it to be more visible. He and his wife have ridden all over Europe,Canada and it not only is the norm it is recommended. They also were advocates of high visibility clothing
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From: South Florida
During the day, I ride with the passing lamps on and headlamp on high beam.
If you want to become more noticeable beyond that, do the SMIDSY.
MotoTips 1: The SMIDSY Weave! - YouTube
If you want to become more noticeable beyond that, do the SMIDSY.
MotoTips 1: The SMIDSY Weave! - YouTube
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From: Atlanta, GA
100% agree with you Scratch. If you're "blinded" by my high beam during the day, that huge fireball in the sky must really aggravate the **** out of you and frankly you shouldn't be driving, period.
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From: Saskatchewan
Everyone is different. I do find bright lights blinding even in daytime myself. There are many studies out on brain behaviour, and people may "see" the motorcycle, but the brain fails to recognize it. Same thing with the train, when we are taught to drive it is engrained in our brain to look out for other cars, not train or motorcycles. Most people will see the trains and motorcycles but then here comes the guy who has lost focus on driving and is now only "seeing" cars.
I work on a railway myself as well and it doesn't matter how bright or how many lights you have on, there are still people who don't look. I can see a train coming from 5 miles away even if they have 1 light on dim, because that is what I was taught from the first day of working on the railway.
Bright lights may make you more visible but I believe it's best to have more lights and the wider you can make them the better. Just seen a BMW today with lights on the engine guard and it caught my eye immediately. I'm now considering adding a set to the Glide to enhance the headlight and spot lights when on the highway.
I work on a railway myself as well and it doesn't matter how bright or how many lights you have on, there are still people who don't look. I can see a train coming from 5 miles away even if they have 1 light on dim, because that is what I was taught from the first day of working on the railway.
Bright lights may make you more visible but I believe it's best to have more lights and the wider you can make them the better. Just seen a BMW today with lights on the engine guard and it caught my eye immediately. I'm now considering adding a set to the Glide to enhance the headlight and spot lights when on the highway.
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From: NC
My 800,000+ miles on two wheels negates that argument. But how very intelligent of you. Instead of commenting with a counter argument, you try to insult.
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Brights on,during daylight,always. Our riding course instructor ,both basic and advanced,suggested it to be more visible. He and his wife have ridden all over Europe,Canada and it not only is the norm it is recommended. They also were advocates of high visibility clothing
I was an MSF instructor for over 12 years. It has been documented that bright lights require more time to focus eyes to perceive approach speed. If you want the best visibiity to others, mount lights on the fork lowers.
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When I took the MSF course they recommended using high beams during the day, but that was before LEDs came along and I don't know if that's still true. On my Streetglide I added a pair of 2" LED running lights on the crash bars down low enough to clear the soft lowers and I also changed to LED turn signals with the white halo ring and clear lenses. With this setup I don't run on high beam with the Evo 2 headlight during the day.