What will happen if i do this?
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From:
What will happen if i do this?
Hi there,
My first post here. I am posting from Singapore, a hot place like Arizona, except for the 95% humidity here.
In singapore, we have similar EPA rules and noise polution rules like in some of thestates in USof A.
I havea 2005 FI Road King Classic, with the following done on my bike.
-SE slip on pipes
-SE 203 cam
-SE stage 1 air cleaner kit, with K&N air filter
-ECM calibration for the above.(i think, as it was done by previous owner)
My question is simple...
What will happen if i slip out the SE pipes, and put back the stock catalytic exhaust pipe?
-Will it cause any ill-effect to the bike? (was told by prev owner nothing will happen)
-Will the bike run fine with Stage 1 calibration?
Why do i have to do this?
-Because of the EPA rules here that 3 yr old & up bike will need to be inspected for noise level annually in order to enjoy theriding priviledge on theroad.(the SE pipes will fail the inspection)
Thanks everyone here, Ride safely!
My first post here. I am posting from Singapore, a hot place like Arizona, except for the 95% humidity here.
In singapore, we have similar EPA rules and noise polution rules like in some of thestates in USof A.
I havea 2005 FI Road King Classic, with the following done on my bike.
-SE slip on pipes
-SE 203 cam
-SE stage 1 air cleaner kit, with K&N air filter
-ECM calibration for the above.(i think, as it was done by previous owner)
My question is simple...
What will happen if i slip out the SE pipes, and put back the stock catalytic exhaust pipe?
-Will it cause any ill-effect to the bike? (was told by prev owner nothing will happen)
-Will the bike run fine with Stage 1 calibration?
Why do i have to do this?
-Because of the EPA rules here that 3 yr old & up bike will need to be inspected for noise level annually in order to enjoy theriding priviledge on theroad.(the SE pipes will fail the inspection)
Thanks everyone here, Ride safely!
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 1,200
Likes: 1
From: Michigan
RE: What will happen if i do this?
Welcome!
Someone elsewill answer this better than me.
When changing slip ons you change backpressure. With your other mods I would stay with the ECM calibration.
I don't think the slip on change will make that big of difference from SE to Stock.
I'll be curious to see if you notice any performance difference?
Someone elsewill answer this better than me.
When changing slip ons you change backpressure. With your other mods I would stay with the ECM calibration.
I don't think the slip on change will make that big of difference from SE to Stock.
I'll be curious to see if you notice any performance difference?
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From:
RE: What will happen if i do this?
Hey thanks for the fast response and attention.
I am not so concern with the performance difference, because i only want to put back to stock catalytic pipes for a few days of riding & bike noise inspection.
I love my current SE setup, although it is not the best one.
So, as soon as i pass the inpection, i will slip back the SE pipes. Just want to check with all of you here whether it is disastrous to do so.....ha thanks for the warm welcome...
I am not so concern with the performance difference, because i only want to put back to stock catalytic pipes for a few days of riding & bike noise inspection.
I love my current SE setup, although it is not the best one.
So, as soon as i pass the inpection, i will slip back the SE pipes. Just want to check with all of you here whether it is disastrous to do so.....ha thanks for the warm welcome...
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From:
RE: What will happen if i do this?
Yes, they will check for the emission. The last time i went for the inspection, i saw them slipping a pipe like sniffer into the pipes(it was a japanese bike back then)..So i guess it is a "yes"
Does that mean likely a "fail" due to a richer AFR?
Does that mean likely a "fail" due to a richer AFR?
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 503
Likes: 2
From: Dallas, Tx
RE: What will happen if i do this?
That would be my concern. I don't know how tight the regulations are there but you could try swapping the pipes and have it tested. Here if the car/bike fails you still have to pay them but they will retest after you make changes. You may need to find someone local that knows bikes and the test they go thru and see if they think the bike will pass. Good Luck!
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,046
Likes: 1
From: Canada
RE: What will happen if i do this?
You'd be better off with an auto tuner such as a ThunderMax module.That would allow you to go back and forth from slip ons andan air cleaner, go for testing and then switch the stage 1 air cleaner and slip ons back for performance. It's a simple program download from your own laptop to go back and forth. By switching the pipes and the air cleaner, you're going back to stock intake and exhaust which should pass, and the Thundermax tuner will allow you to quickly reprogram yourself, if it's even needed to change from stock to stage 1. I say that because it can tune itself for small adjustments like this would be. Therefore, you'll likely not even need to download a new map, just plug and play.
You can order one from Bart (Shooter64) here on the forum. Look him up as he suppliesmany of the forum members with parts that are priced right. He ships internationally too.
You can order one from Bart (Shooter64) here on the forum. Look him up as he suppliesmany of the forum members with parts that are priced right. He ships internationally too.
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
|
Advanced
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 55
Likes: 0
From:
RE: What will happen if i do this?
It's the same over here. If the test fails, we got to get the bike setup changed and retest again within a given time frame. If it fails again, i'm not sure what will happen. And this is exactly what i want to avoid.
Thanks, i will definitely ask someone closer to me around here in Singapore about the test procedures.
Besides, if i want to have a better control of the situation, i guess i got to either:
1) Get a PCIII and tune the AFR ( can PCIII lean AFR?)
2) Get a SERT and tune the AFR (i know this surely will work)
3) Send the bike annual back the dealership and pay USD200x2 religiously every year to have it map/re-mapped.. (Ouch!)
What other options do i have?
Thanks, i will definitely ask someone closer to me around here in Singapore about the test procedures.
Besides, if i want to have a better control of the situation, i guess i got to either:
1) Get a PCIII and tune the AFR ( can PCIII lean AFR?)
2) Get a SERT and tune the AFR (i know this surely will work)
3) Send the bike annual back the dealership and pay USD200x2 religiously every year to have it map/re-mapped.. (Ouch!)
What other options do i have?
HD Forum Stories
The Best of Harley-Davidson for Lifelong Riders
7 Surprising Harley-Davidson Products that Are Not Motorcycles
Verdad Gallardo
8 Best Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
10 Worst Harley-Davidson Motorcycles Ever
Pouria Savadkouei
Killer Custom's Jail Break Is The Breakout That Refused to Blend In
Verdad Gallardo
Crazy Bunderbike Build Looks Amazing, But Is It Impossible to Ride?
Verdad Gallardo
Harley-Davidson Reveals Super Cool Cafe Racer Concept
Verdad Gallardo
Engraved Rebellion: Inside Bundnerbike's Glam Rock II
Verdad Gallardo
10 Motorcycles You Should Never Buy
Joe Kucinski
10 Things Harley-Davidson Needs to Fix in 2026
Verdad Gallardo
Road Captain
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 503
Likes: 2
From: Dallas, Tx
RE: What will happen if i do this?
That's why I was thinking you need to find someone local that knows if the stage 1 download will pass emission testing there. You never know it might pass after swaping the mufflers out just as it sets.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ZeroFiveFour
Dyna Glide Models
15
Mar 3, 2008 09:48 AM