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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jshopes
they say theyll rebuild any shock theyve made. the progressives i had, i called to see about a rebuild and progressive said no, those shocks werent supported anymore, ohlins says theyll support any product theyve made.
I wonder if that applies to their sets that Howard modified?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by elPrez
I wonder if that applies to their sets that Howard modified?
i would speculate that the answer is yes, but that would just be a phone call away. im not under the impression that howard modified them beyond having the correct weight spring for the rider, but ive been wrong before.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 06:18 AM
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Ohlins are that good. If it would’ve been a option in 14” for my Tri Glide they would be on there now.
 

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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by elPrez
I wonder if that applies to their sets that Howard modified?
I toured the Ohlins facility a while back and one of the guys at Ohlins noticed the rear shocks. I told him I got it from Howard at Motorcycle Metal and he mentioned they will still do a rebuild if necessary. Howard was a seller and service dealer for Ohlins.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 81shovelhd!
I came upon Ohlins S36HR1C1L shocks on RevZilla.
Price......$1549!!
Thats a hefty price tag!!
Does anyone have these?
And is the ride THAT significantly better to warrant a price like that?
I might be changing out whats on my 2010 RK.
How can I tell if what's on there now are the original shocks?
I looked into this deeply enough to understand this. There's a huge difference between the Ohlins version and the SE version (besides gold vs black remotes) and that difference is that the SE version of these $1549 shocks comes with "Progressive Rate Springs" which while reducing typical working travel while rising 1-up also incorporates progressively increasing spring resistance (as the spring compresses) to accomodate an additional rider and/or severe road surface irregularities (whichever comes first) whereas the S36HR (Ohlins gold tank version of this shock and the one you're inquiring about) is a straight up race shock that incorporates an very rider weight specific "Straight Rate Spring" which is a great choice for one-up time trials on track day? Leaves much to be desired for the touring types who occasionally load up and/or ride two-up on speed bump and pothole ridden public roads.

Ultimately? For less than the $300 scheduled servicing cost of said Ohlins? I ordered a pair of no frills standard sprung 13" Progressive 412 shocks for $275 on their last Black Friday Sale at Revzilla and couldn't be more pleased with the ride though I do need to address my front suspension now and am thinking about running 150 miles north to Teddy Morse Destination Daytona Bike Week to have that done today or tomorrow.

Good luck on your decision making and money spending.


 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:15 AM
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So, am I looking at the specs correctly, these are a 13" shock only? For you guys that have gone to this shock that have a Road/Street Glide Special, has the 1" increase in shock length affected handling characteristics/performance at all? How is this additional 1"better for a solo rider?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by 702
So, am I looking at the specs correctly, these are a 13" shock only? For you guys that have gone to this shock that have a Road/Street Glide Special, has the 1" increase in shock length affected handling characteristics/performance at all? How is this additional 1"better for a solo rider?
I can't speak to the Ohlins version but I can speak to the 13" part of your question by offering up these shared observations and experiences...

The 12" OEM shocks have absolutely "Zero Static Sag" and unless you weigh >250lbs? You'll experience "Zero Ladened Sag" as well meaning the spring on the left side is so resistant to compression that unless you pile on extra weight via loaded for a trip or riding two-up or hit a bump? The shocks are always locked at the top at full extension because this is the way HD got to advertise "Single Side Adjustment" because the monster sized spring on the left shock (adjustment side) is so strong? It simply overrides the wimpy Bic Pen sized spring on the right shock...



So what going to a 13" shock does is gives the bike (and the rider) the ability to properly adjust some static and ladened sag into the mix which loads and compresses the shock in such a way that there "Travel Extension Available" to help maintain your tires contact patch over rough surface road conditions and what a properly adjusted for sag 13" shock doesn't do? Is it doesn't affect ride height by any significant amount unless? You wish to run'em tight (for increased feedback ad performance) by increasing spring preload.

Going 13" has been a win/win/win for me.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by JINKSTER
I can't speak to the Ohlins version but I can speak to the 13" part of your question by offering up these shared observations and experiences...

The 12" OEM shocks have absolutely "Zero Static Sag" and unless you weigh >250lbs? You'll experience "Zero Ladened Sag" as well meaning the spring on the left side is so resistant to compression that unless you pile on extra weight via loaded for a trip or riding two-up or hit a bump? The shocks are always locked at the top at full extension because this is the way HD got to advertise "Single Side Adjustment" because the monster sized spring on the left shock (adjustment side) is so strong? It simply overrides the wimpy Bic Pen sized spring on the right shock...

So what going to a 13" shock does is gives the bike (and the rider) the ability to properly adjust some static and ladened sag into the mix which loads and compresses the shock in such a way that there "Travel Extension Available" to help maintain your tires contact patch over rough surface road conditions and what a properly adjusted for sag 13" shock doesn't do? Is it doesn't affect ride height by any significant amount unless? You wish to run'em tight (for increased feedback ad performance) by increasing spring preload.

Going 13" has been a win/win/win for me.
I ditched the factory shocks long ago for Fox 12" rears, so I understand the difference, but how does 1" extra shock length not affect ride height by 1" if pre-load is properly adjusted?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 81shovelhd!
I hear ya!
I'm coming from 30 or so years with the same shocks on my 81shovelhead and my 2010 RK bottomed out a couple times while 2 up.
I brought the PSI up to 20 so well see what that does.
This tells me that you have air shocks. ANYTHING you get, IMHO, will be better than those!

Ohlins, Progressive, Legends and might I add Pro Action, will be light years ahead of what you have. But as stated above, do the front too. You'll think you have a new machine.

But once, cry once.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2024 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 702
I ditched the factory shocks long ago for Fox 12" rears, so I understand the difference, but how does 1" extra shock length not affect ride height by 1" if pre-load is properly adjusted?
Because a properly sprung/adjusted 13" shock compresses about 1" under the ladened sprung weight of both bike and rider where the stiffly sprung 12" shocks tend to not compress unless acted upon by a speed bump or pothole.

If you order a Standard Sprung 13" Progressive 412 shock you get a softer 90/130 progressive rate coil spring whereas if you order that same shock in the 12" version? They will come sprung at 115/150 which is considerably stiffer but have to be to keep them from bottoming out due to lack of travel and they? Will have a tendency to retain their "Overall Free Length" even when subjected to ladened sag.





Edit: Short answer? 13" shocks are sprung to compress, 12" shocks? not so much.
 

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