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Old Jun 18, 2025 | 01:23 PM
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I was, but cig lighter is easy

why does it matter where you measure?

Cig lighter might be able to see while riding.

I did install pigtails not for tender but to check battery voltage without taking seat off
Because wire can have voltage drop if there is additional loads on them? Ever hear of remote sense? Wonder why sensors have their own gronds?
 

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@Goose_NC I just did a search for Harley PDF and the site comes right up.


Are you a member of that group?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2025 | 04:11 PM
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Are you a member of that group?
Yes you need to sign up - join the group, sorry I didn’t mention that.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2025 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Because wire can have voltage drop if there is additional loads on them? Ever hear of remote sense? Wonder why sensors have their own gronds?
It is a power point, by design it should supply 12 volts or it would not be a good power point. Maybe loads draw down a little but still enough power?

Put a meter on tender pigtail and cig lighter. Cig lighter was few tenths less, which would make a difference,

same test newer bike with cap over hole 11.69 and 11.79. I am not convinved it is just a matter of clean connection. Bike one the cig lighter disappeared 15 years ago.
 

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Originally Posted by Rounders
It is a power point, by design it should supply 12 volts or it would not be a good power point. Maybe loads draw down a little but still enough power?

Put a meter on tender pigtail and cig lighter. Cig lighter was few tenths less, which would make a difference,

same test newer bike with cap over hole 11.69 and 11.79. I am not convinved it is just a matter of clean connection. Bike one the cig lighter disappeared 15 years ago.
So you agree then..
 
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
So you agree then..
No sure. One bike was .1 difference. Is it simply a bad connection or dirty. This was more newer bike where power point was capped off. Older bike was .3-4, but had not had a cap on port for 15 years.

I get the point about voltage drop. I am just not sure this is a good case of that. But I am not sure.
 
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Does anyone know if the compensator bolt threads should have loctite on it?
 
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Does anyone know if the compensator bolt threads should have loctite on it?
They should be done with loctite. Red Make sure to clean everything well..
 
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They should be done with loctite. Red Make sure to clean everything well..
I was pretty sure I wanted to verify thank you now the help.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2025 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rounders
No sure. One bike was .1 difference. Is it simply a bad connection or dirty. This was more newer bike where power point was capped off. Older bike was .3-4, but had not had a cap on port for 15 years.

I get the point about voltage drop. I am just not sure this is a good case of that. But I am not sure.
Open the wiring diagrams for both bikes and look where the Orange/White goes. Also Orange/Violet and Orange/Red. Count the connectors. Everything has resistance. Remember V = I x R The pigtail connects directly to the battery.
 
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