07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
Tourer
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RE: 07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
ORIGINAL: fatboylust
PA law says:
Protection
The law states that the manufacturer must correct any flaw, at no cost to you, that occurs under any of the following conditions:
Within one year of the vehicle being sold.
Before the vehicle's odometer clicks out 12,000 miles.
While the express warranty is still valid.
By definition, the flaw must be something so substantial that it either plummets the car's value or makes the car unsafe.
If the Flaw Is Not CorrectedIf the kink in your car has not been rectified after three repair visits, or if your vehicle slumbers out of service for a total of 30 or more days, you may be eligible for a replacement vehicle of the same value or a full refund.
To initiate compensation, you need to alert the manufacturer of your intentions. If you are met with indifference or are completely brushed off, the Pennsylvania Automobile Lemon Law―under the backing of the state's attorney general―gives you the green light to launch a lawsuit.
Lemon Law Documentation
To assure that the Pennsylvania Automobile Lemon Law works in your favor, begin maintaining detailed records the moment you start having problems with your car. These documents will serve as your star witnesses should you go to court. To prove you've been sold a lemon, have ready:
Sale or lease documents.
Maintenance records, including receipts for maintenance supplies.
Repair statements.
All documents pertaining to the flaw.
Assistance
If you have questions or concerns, call the Office of Attorney General's Bureau of Consumer Protection at (800) 441-2555. The attorney general's Web site also offers a summary of the Lemon Law.
Seem like you qualify.
FBL
PA law says:
Protection
The law states that the manufacturer must correct any flaw, at no cost to you, that occurs under any of the following conditions:
Within one year of the vehicle being sold.
Before the vehicle's odometer clicks out 12,000 miles.
While the express warranty is still valid.
By definition, the flaw must be something so substantial that it either plummets the car's value or makes the car unsafe.
If the Flaw Is Not CorrectedIf the kink in your car has not been rectified after three repair visits, or if your vehicle slumbers out of service for a total of 30 or more days, you may be eligible for a replacement vehicle of the same value or a full refund.
To initiate compensation, you need to alert the manufacturer of your intentions. If you are met with indifference or are completely brushed off, the Pennsylvania Automobile Lemon Law―under the backing of the state's attorney general―gives you the green light to launch a lawsuit.
Lemon Law Documentation
To assure that the Pennsylvania Automobile Lemon Law works in your favor, begin maintaining detailed records the moment you start having problems with your car. These documents will serve as your star witnesses should you go to court. To prove you've been sold a lemon, have ready:
Sale or lease documents.
Maintenance records, including receipts for maintenance supplies.
Repair statements.
All documents pertaining to the flaw.
Assistance
If you have questions or concerns, call the Office of Attorney General's Bureau of Consumer Protection at (800) 441-2555. The attorney general's Web site also offers a summary of the Lemon Law.
Seem like you qualify.
FBL
The Automobile Lemon Law applies to the PURCHASE or LEASE of new vehicles that are registered in Pennsylvania. The vehicle must be used for personal, family or household purposes. Commercial vehicles, motorcycles, motor homes, and off-road vehicles are not covered by the law.
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RE: 07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
I think the posts by people who are happy with their bikes are attempting totell our bro Shovelhead the problem is probably just his bike and not the 07 RK. The title of his post was "Do WE own a lemon?" It could be read 2 ways... but I thought he was indirectly asking 07 RK owners if they are having problems.
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RE: 07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
Yeah, the title is "do we", but then the post says "we bought... we're having this trouble". So I think the we is the particular family unit. In respect to the others chiming in with "no problem here", that's okay because it just goes to cement the notion that the particular bike in question is problematic and it's not that "they all do that, it's okay".
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RE: 07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
ORIGINAL: Billiam92407
I think the posts by people who are happy with their bikes are attempting totell our bro Shovelhead the problem is probably just his bike and not the 07 RK. The title of his post was "Do WE own a lemon?" It could be read 2 ways... but I thought he was indirectly asking 07 RK owners if they are having problems.
I think the posts by people who are happy with their bikes are attempting totell our bro Shovelhead the problem is probably just his bike and not the 07 RK. The title of his post was "Do WE own a lemon?" It could be read 2 ways... but I thought he was indirectly asking 07 RK owners if they are having problems.
ORIGINAL: glens
Yeah, the title is "do we", but then the post says "we bought... we're having this trouble". So I think the we is the particular family unit. In respect to the others chiming in with "no problem here", that's okay because it just goes to cement the notion that the particular bike in question is problematic and it's not that "they all do that, it's okay".
Yeah, the title is "do we", but then the post says "we bought... we're having this trouble". So I think the we is the particular family unit. In respect to the others chiming in with "no problem here", that's okay because it just goes to cement the notion that the particular bike in question is problematic and it's not that "they all do that, it's okay".
EDIT TO ADD: My '07 RK runsgreat. I hope you get some help with the situation 76 and I would try the letter approach others have suggested. Sounds to me like there might indeed be a"safety" issue to consider.
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RE: 07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
IAC, TPS and Minimum Air rate spec is the first place to start.
If the minimum air rate/ throttle body plate is set incorrectly you will have major stalling/idle issue`s. The IAC will not be able to compensate properly and the bike will stall, idle flare and act up.
It is critical to have the throttle body setup properly. Then you can adjust the TPS to get it within spec and your IAC will followwith an IAC count of 30 when it setup properly.
TPS should be around .40 to .80 volts with the throttle body plate not touching the bore ever. The set screw needs to stop the plate before it makes contact with the throttle body bore.
Also check your battery cables with a wrench to verify proper installation. Don`t just look at them. Use a wrench to verify it. Your problem will soon be corrected.
If the minimum air rate/ throttle body plate is set incorrectly you will have major stalling/idle issue`s. The IAC will not be able to compensate properly and the bike will stall, idle flare and act up.
It is critical to have the throttle body setup properly. Then you can adjust the TPS to get it within spec and your IAC will followwith an IAC count of 30 when it setup properly.
TPS should be around .40 to .80 volts with the throttle body plate not touching the bore ever. The set screw needs to stop the plate before it makes contact with the throttle body bore.
Also check your battery cables with a wrench to verify proper installation. Don`t just look at them. Use a wrench to verify it. Your problem will soon be corrected.
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RE: 07 RoadKing do we own a lemon?
Glad to hear that ECU set upworks for you. and that is what weall want to have great running bikes. now as forOEMnarrow band o2 senors vs wide band 02 senors...Narrow band02 senors (factory installed) once theOEM ECUreads engine is warmed up it will lean out to 14:7:1..ECU goes to open loop mode riching fuel mixture to 12:1 attempting to cool engine at idle,as soon as rpms hit 1200ECU goes back to 14:71 this is very lean mixturethus raising "Engine temperature". this lean mode of the OEMECU has problems with aftermarket equipment installed on my bike.. Now what is thenumber one killer of engines "HEAT" assuming that we all do regular oil changes. just glad that my engines runs must cooler all the time. Thundermax i give two thumbs up!! also because of opitional adjustment i can do myself at homeand free update/downloads and has three different engine setting for88, 96, 103 cu.in. i Think that is very cool if one want to change engines. the more you can do yourself the more money is headed for opitional part for our rides.. not in shops pocket. The waver is, this is only my opinion
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