IDS Pics
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RE: IDS Pics
I've stayed out of these IDS threads for the most part. I do have a question about the part though. I realize it's not new and that metrics have used them for decades. How much power do you think can be put through one of these before it fails? A V-Rod makes over 100 hp, but very little tq and it's a light bike, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.
My RG will soon be sporting over 115hp and 120tq. Will one of these IDS systems handle all that in a fully loaded bagger?
I'm not really in the market for one as my '07 rides like a dream, with none of the problems some people complain of. Just curious how much power these IDS are capable of handling.
My RG will soon be sporting over 115hp and 120tq. Will one of these IDS systems handle all that in a fully loaded bagger?
I'm not really in the market for one as my '07 rides like a dream, with none of the problems some people complain of. Just curious how much power these IDS are capable of handling.
Road Master
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From: Chester County, PA
RE: IDS Pics
ORIGINAL: choochoo
I understand there are many manufacturers, I said we commonly call them Lovejoy.
Lovejoy is just one of many brands, but in our area is the most common one.
Some people never cease to amaze me about nitpicking little things.
But your first sentence is the most accurate!
well I don't have a BMW or a metric and I don't visit their sites, so would be pointless to do so.
I'm not really bashing the engineers, but ratherHD itself.
The top where pass the buck stops. They are so intently worried about their own paycheck they don't care if they screw you over, by making a shoddy model (07 touring), then quietly do a running upgrade to fix their screwup, and then expect you to pay for the parts to fix yours.
Hey HD is not the only one that does this. In way or another entire corporate America does it.
But you folks that just roll over and willingly take it in the *** from them, just encourage them to keep doing it.
HD claims it's the "power pulses from the engine" causing the problem. Well if that is true how come it isn't apparent in other models and how come 01-06 people that upgraded to 95+ engine sizes don't have the problem too.
Why is it prevalent in only in the 07's with the "new" 6 speed and now apparently in the 08's so they installed the "fix" at the factory to prevent the complaints?
You all got a problem with your scoot from factory, you think should be fixed, stop rolling over and playing dead! And spending more money at the moco for the fix. The FTC and Congress GAVE you a means to fight back.
USE IT!!! You just might get the fix completely free. But you got to be willing to fight for your rights and satisfaction.
Stop being such pacifists!!
I understand there are many manufacturers, I said we commonly call them Lovejoy.
Lovejoy is just one of many brands, but in our area is the most common one.
Some people never cease to amaze me about nitpicking little things.
But your first sentence is the most accurate!
well I don't have a BMW or a metric and I don't visit their sites, so would be pointless to do so.
I'm not really bashing the engineers, but ratherHD itself.
The top where pass the buck stops. They are so intently worried about their own paycheck they don't care if they screw you over, by making a shoddy model (07 touring), then quietly do a running upgrade to fix their screwup, and then expect you to pay for the parts to fix yours.
Hey HD is not the only one that does this. In way or another entire corporate America does it.
But you folks that just roll over and willingly take it in the *** from them, just encourage them to keep doing it.
HD claims it's the "power pulses from the engine" causing the problem. Well if that is true how come it isn't apparent in other models and how come 01-06 people that upgraded to 95+ engine sizes don't have the problem too.
Why is it prevalent in only in the 07's with the "new" 6 speed and now apparently in the 08's so they installed the "fix" at the factory to prevent the complaints?
You all got a problem with your scoot from factory, you think should be fixed, stop rolling over and playing dead! And spending more money at the moco for the fix. The FTC and Congress GAVE you a means to fight back.
USE IT!!! You just might get the fix completely free. But you got to be willing to fight for your rights and satisfaction.
Stop being such pacifists!!
That's jus tsilly.
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RE: IDS Pics
ORIGINAL: Biggzed
How much power do you think can be put through one of these before it fails? A V-Rod makes over 100 hp, but very little tq and it's a light bike, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.
My RG will soon be sporting over 115hp and 120tq. Will one of these IDS systems handle all that in a fully loaded bagger?
How much power do you think can be put through one of these before it fails? A V-Rod makes over 100 hp, but very little tq and it's a light bike, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.
My RG will soon be sporting over 115hp and 120tq. Will one of these IDS systems handle all that in a fully loaded bagger?
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RE: IDS Pics
ORIGINAL: glens
Horsepower is purely a function of torque over time, and in fact the horsepower figures you see on dyno charts are the result of equations against the torque measured. I wouldn't worry about it with your upcoming situation if you want to install one. Worst case is you'll have to replace the elastomer bushings every 70,000 miles instead of every 100,000 (just a guess).
ORIGINAL: Biggzed
How much power do you think can be put through one of these before it fails? A V-Rod makes over 100 hp, but very little tq and it's a light bike, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.
My RG will soon be sporting over 115hp and 120tq. Will one of these IDS systems handle all that in a fully loaded bagger?
How much power do you think can be put through one of these before it fails? A V-Rod makes over 100 hp, but very little tq and it's a light bike, so I don't think that's a fair comparison.
My RG will soon be sporting over 115hp and 120tq. Will one of these IDS systems handle all that in a fully loaded bagger?
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: Chester County, PA
RE: IDS Pics
ORIGINAL: Biggzed
I'm the first to admit I don't understand a whole lot about physics. But your explanation, while I'm sure is accurate, doesn't really put my mind at ease. In the real world, if I nail the throttle at 2500 rpm with my current configuration, a certain amount of force is applied to the rear pulley. After these engine changes under the same conditions, that force will be multiplied. Not sure if it's a linear correlation, but I am increasing the power of the engine by over 60%. So will the rubber in this IDS hold up under the force the new engine will be capable of producing under hard acceleration.
I'm the first to admit I don't understand a whole lot about physics. But your explanation, while I'm sure is accurate, doesn't really put my mind at ease. In the real world, if I nail the throttle at 2500 rpm with my current configuration, a certain amount of force is applied to the rear pulley. After these engine changes under the same conditions, that force will be multiplied. Not sure if it's a linear correlation, but I am increasing the power of the engine by over 60%. So will the rubber in this IDS hold up under the force the new engine will be capable of producing under hard acceleration.
Ya'll got nothing to worry about. Really. Worry over something else.
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