Head Quarters 103 Numbers
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Head Quarters 103 Numbers
Head Quarters boast for their 103" build using a 2 into 1 pipe:
Horse Power: 115
Torque: 120
Anyone ever reach those numbers? If so, please post the chart.
Kevin at Head Quarters told me "our numbers come from real world results and averages from our customers not from our in house dyno". So surely there are numbers well over 115/120 to reach a "combined average" of 115/120.
Let's see those numbers and charts showing 115/120 and over for a Head Quarters 103" build.
Horse Power: 115
Torque: 120
Anyone ever reach those numbers? If so, please post the chart.
Kevin at Head Quarters told me "our numbers come from real world results and averages from our customers not from our in house dyno". So surely there are numbers well over 115/120 to reach a "combined average" of 115/120.
Let's see those numbers and charts showing 115/120 and over for a Head Quarters 103" build.
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From: Stockbridge, GA (Atlanta)
RE: Head Quarters 103 Numbers
I have the 103 build with rinehart tru duals -- even with a horrible tunethe tq is at 117 -- the hp (not worried about this) is at 105. I imagine if and when I get it tuned correctly the hp # will increase to about 110/ 115 easily with D&D fatcat; I see no problem achieving the tq numbers.
A better indicator is the present power the bike has-- wheelies no problem -- rolling burnouts no problems (with some clutch) 120mph in a manner of seconds no problem---if you can swing it I would get the 113 or 120 and hold on.
A better indicator is the present power the bike has-- wheelies no problem -- rolling burnouts no problems (with some clutch) 120mph in a manner of seconds no problem---if you can swing it I would get the 113 or 120 and hold on.
ORIGINAL: CigarCritic
Head Quarters boast for their 103" build using a 2 into 1 pipe:
Horse Power: 115
Torque: 120
Anyone ever reach those numbers? If so, please post the chart.
Kevin at Head Quarters told me "our numbers come from real world results and averages from our customers not from our in house dyno". So surely there are numbers well over 115/120 to reach a "combined average" of 115/120.
Let's see those numbers and charts showing 115/120 and over for a Head Quarters 103" build.
Head Quarters boast for their 103" build using a 2 into 1 pipe:
Horse Power: 115
Torque: 120
Anyone ever reach those numbers? If so, please post the chart.
Kevin at Head Quarters told me "our numbers come from real world results and averages from our customers not from our in house dyno". So surely there are numbers well over 115/120 to reach a "combined average" of 115/120.
Let's see those numbers and charts showing 115/120 and over for a Head Quarters 103" build.
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From: Stockbridge, GA (Atlanta)
RE: Head Quarters 103 Numbers
just and FYI:Kevin says it you can bank on it; heis a rolling test bed for HQs stuff---he won't give you something you don't need or can't use; when you build make sure you get the crank run out checked --- it's probably fine but whileyou have the motor open does not cost an additional dime to check it
ORIGINAL: CigarCritic
Head Quarters boast for their 103" build using a 2 into 1 pipe:
Horse Power: 115
Torque: 120
Anyone ever reach those numbers? If so, please post the chart.
Kevin at Head Quarters told me "our numbers come from real world results and averages from our customers not from our in house dyno". So surely there are numbers well over 115/120 to reach a "combined average" of 115/120.
Let's see those numbers and charts showing 115/120 and over for a Head Quarters 103" build.
Head Quarters boast for their 103" build using a 2 into 1 pipe:
Horse Power: 115
Torque: 120
Anyone ever reach those numbers? If so, please post the chart.
Kevin at Head Quarters told me "our numbers come from real world results and averages from our customers not from our in house dyno". So surely there are numbers well over 115/120 to reach a "combined average" of 115/120.
Let's see those numbers and charts showing 115/120 and over for a Head Quarters 103" build.
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RE: Head Quarters 103 Numbers
Assembling the engine correctly is probably about 85% of the work involved in getting good numbers; the rest is getting a good tune.
I suggest you give Kevin a call and let him help you get the bike's tune better. He'll need a copy of the map currently loaded in your ECM.
Also, about a month ago I was present when Kevin tuned a customer's HQ 103 on a RK withThunderheader,and delivered the bike to the customer with 113 hp and 124 tq. The guy had previously been running an HQ 95, and was "shocked" by how much more powerful the 103 was than the 95 after taking the bike for a test ride.
Sounds like you need some more tuning, not charts.
I suggest you give Kevin a call and let him help you get the bike's tune better. He'll need a copy of the map currently loaded in your ECM.
Also, about a month ago I was present when Kevin tuned a customer's HQ 103 on a RK withThunderheader,and delivered the bike to the customer with 113 hp and 124 tq. The guy had previously been running an HQ 95, and was "shocked" by how much more powerful the 103 was than the 95 after taking the bike for a test ride.
Sounds like you need some more tuning, not charts.
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From: Stockbridge, GA (Atlanta)
RE: Head Quarters 103 Numbers
I agree with Carl, something is wrong here ---
are you using SERT, PCIII or something else and alsowhat type of breather and exhaust are you using?
are you using SERT, PCIII or something else and alsowhat type of breather and exhaust are you using?
ORIGINAL: CigarCritic
I've completed my HQ 107" and my numbers are very poor. That's why I want to see these Huge numbers that Kevin (Head Quarters) is advertising.
See chart...
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I've completed my HQ 107" and my numbers are very poor. That's why I want to see these Huge numbers that Kevin (Head Quarters) is advertising.
See chart...
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RE: Head Quarters 103 Numbers
Like others have been saying, somethings not right. I'm getting 104/100 out of a 95" HQ touring build that consist of their heads 0039 cams at 10.1, this is with a middle of the road tune.
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RE: Head Quarters 103 Numbers
ORIGINAL: lkr0
I agree with Carl, something is wrong here ---
are you using SERT, PCIII or something else and alsowhat type of breather and exhaust are you using?
I agree with Carl, something is wrong here ---
are you using SERT, PCIII or something else and alsowhat type of breather and exhaust are you using?