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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RC07ultra
Got it re-tuned today ended up almost 82HP 94TQ wish I save the money and not done it again,Bike does run well but after re-tune lost some take off, kind of falls on its face then takes off didn't do that before, but it is what it is not spending more money on tuning. Not happy with the people who recommended this cam to me and about the numbers they get with just a cam swap, wish I would have went with a different one or not at all.
Don't blame it on the cams. Blame it on the tune/tuner. Those cams are proven and have given many people good results with good setups. Maybe your other "parts" in your setup are not "working" well with the cams that you have? Not trying to troll you. I just think they would quit selling the 555 cams if they didnt make power. If you go on fuelmotos page, you can see a couple of dyno sheets that show bikes with 555 cams making gobs of low end torque with the 555 cams in a 107" build.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy81
....those are some ugly squiggly lines on your graph....
I'm not a pro, but I've never seen lines like that.

Originally Posted by jmcdermit
Blame it on the tune/tuner.
I'd say that's his problem.
 
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jmcdermit
Don't blame it on the cams. Blame it on the tune/tuner. Those cams are proven and have given many people good results with good setups. Maybe your other "parts" in your setup are not "working" well with the cams that you have? Not trying to troll you. I just think they would quit selling the 555 cams if they didnt make power. If you go on fuelmotos page, you can see a couple of dyno sheets that show bikes with 555 cams making gobs of low end torque with the 555 cams in a 107" build.
Not really blaming the 555 cams,had 5 different tuners/installers tell 90+HP and over 100TQ on this cam all day, that's why I had it re-tuned, but what others mods have they done? Your right could be other parts like my pipe or something not done yet, I think I'm just mad about the $$, I was going to go with the 222 because the 07s have a smaller throttle body 46mm ? in 08 they changed to a 50mm TB most dyno sheets you see are on newer models 09 up. The reason I ended up with the 555 is because we thought the rpm range would work better with the front pulley change from a 32t to a 30t. Got to look at the bright side maybe a 107 up grade w/TB this winter lol
 
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 11:31 PM
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96 inch
555 Woods cams
Freedom Performance American Outlaw Exhaust
SE heavy breather
82hp 96 tq
Sert
Runs really nice, cams and tune made the bike fun to ride. Great torque, reasonable hp, but rides waaaay funner than the numbers let on. Nothing close to my 120hp softail, but enough to keep me from putting down the $ for a 120r.....
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RC07ultra
Not really blaming the 555 cams,had 5 different tuners/installers tell 90+HP and over 100TQ on this cam all day, that's why I had it re-tuned, but what others mods have they done? Your right could be other parts like my pipe or something not done yet, I think I'm just mad about the $$, I was going to go with the 222 because the 07s have a smaller throttle body 46mm ? in 08 they changed to a 50mm TB most dyno sheets you see are on newer models 09 up. The reason I ended up with the 555 is because we thought the rpm range would work better with the front pulley change from a 32t to a 30t. Got to look at the bright side maybe a 107 up grade w/TB this winter lol

If you want our advice then please listen to us...


You either have a mechanical issue (which the tuners should have found.) preventing the bike from running correctly or you got another bad tune. It is not the cams themselves or how the cams interact with your year bike.


Every single reply has stated at least part of this. Yet you refuse to stop and listen. Take the bike to a "Good" dyno (like Roeders or Drago or Fuel Moto), tell them your history and that you are worried that you may have a mechanical issue and then let them do their stuff. Afterwards you can try to get some of your money back from these other Bozos....
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 09:05 AM
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Here is the dyno graph from my tune... The lower set is after two sets of auto tunes with the sert.
The higher set is after hours of tuning by a great experienced tuner. He said the 555's are a bit of a different animal compared to most, but the results are great for a lil 96. Rideability is awesome.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by PFWiz
If you want our advice then please listen to us...


You either have a mechanical issue (which the tuners should have found.) preventing the bike from running correctly or you got another bad tune. It is not the cams themselves or how the cams interact with your year bike.


Every single reply has stated at least part of this. Yet you refuse to stop and listen. Take the bike to a "Good" dyno (like Roeders or Drago or Fuel Moto), tell them your history and that you are worried that you may have a mechanical issue and then let them do their stuff. Afterwards you can try to get some of your money back from these other Bozos....
No I have listened to the advice and thankful for it and I think something is wrong,but this has all been brought up I ask for compression test, check O rings on oil pump I was going to take it all back apart to check everything, was even going to change the fueling lifters to woods, but everyone said things are good with install and mechanical and just say got misleading info about the results most people get, dyno can be manipulated to read better. Numbers are numbers the seat of the pants dyno likes the way it runs just hope it stays together. Don't want to waste anymore $$ on tuning.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RC07ultra
No I have listened to the advice and thankful for it and I think something is wrong,but this has all been brought up I ask for compression test, check O rings on oil pump I was going to take it all back apart to check everything, was even going to change the fueling lifters to woods, but everyone said things are good with install and mechanical and just say got misleading info about the results most people get, dyno can be manipulated to read better. Numbers are numbers the seat of the pants dyno likes the way it runs just hope it stays together. Don't want to waste anymore $$ on tuning.
I tend to agree with you on the numbers being unattainable, for whatever reason, but whatever, the way i see it, those dyno graphs got me to buy a cam that i am very happy with.
Looking forward to the day i can square off with my cousins rk that has the same cam, and a canned tune/autotuned from down south there...
 
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 11:57 AM
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by RC07ultra
These are the numbers I had before upgrades 72HP / 87TQ after Woods TW-555 cams Fueling Lifters Fuel Moto adj push rods Freedom performance Union 2 into 1 exhaust Stage 1 AC ~ 76HP / 94TQ Not happy with results
You have a 96 inch low compression engine? These cams are designed for 10:5 to 1 to make them shine. Bore your cylinders to a 107.
 
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