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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by widowmaker221
Have you ever run a center case bolt like that before? That modified bolt definitely ain;t as strong as original.
As a matter that is the same bolt I ran in this motor when it was a 120. It was clearanced then, but just not quite as much.

Actually, if the case had not been drilled all the way thru, I would not be using one there at all. As it is, I'm just gonna be using it to "plug the hole". It has been documented, that this bolt can cause slight deformation of the bottom of the cylinder sleeves. That won't be the "case" (HAHA) on mine, because I'm just gonna snug it enough to safely stay in place and do it's job of stopping weapage from those holes.

Originally Posted by BAGGERDSM
Man Phil, what a great choice of parts! Look like that beast is coming together nicely. I didnt even know S&S made cyls for this application, good to know thanks. You might have ran it before, but that oil pump is awesome. Such a progressive pressure with good flow and great scavenging ability. Revs a little snappier with that pump.
I am really curious to hear of a comparion bewtween your old tq hitting monster to a motor that will rev further out the rpm range. Ed tuning this on as well?
Love the pics, keep them coming.
Thanks Dan! Yes, that pump does create a quicker rev, I suppose primarily from the proper management of oil in the sump. I DO dig the fact that it'll pull like a MF all the way to the top. I experienced it w/the 590 cam swap…

I've been talking to George & I sure wish JD's were closer, but I am lucky to have quality tuning resources locally! If, for whatever reason, we can't get it "just right"… I'll be head'n up that way, or to NC to let TR's shop tweak on it. Having said that.. I have no reason to believe that'll be necessary.

Originally Posted by allen.m
looks like a bunch of junk to me, phil. better let me take it off your hands! i can be right over after work. but seriously, looks great! hope all is well with ya'll.
What's up DUDE! Come on by get this crap out here…. Tell Momma I said HI!

Keep an eye on Grampa… he's eyeing the 124 & I think he's gonna be in for one soon.

Originally Posted by Biggzed
Hey Phil. Looks like a cylinder base gasket instead of the o-ring used on most builds. Is that something unique to the 4.125" bore or was your HQ 120" 4.065 bore using that as well?

Zach
That is the same setup used on the HD 4.060+ jugs. When they bore the cases for the larger spigot, the ring groove goes "bye-bye".

Originally Posted by BadPiggy
I know I'm not Phil, but.....

In his initial post you can see where the o-ring lip has been cut-out of the case.
It looks to me like there isn't enough "meat" left to cut a new o-ring groove...thus the base gasket.

I'd be interested to know if using a gasket changes his torque value for the heads, though.
Excellent observation Chris! THat's exactly what happens.

I use the standard torque spec's provided by Cometic for their MLS gaskets ~ several small steps, up to final value of 42ft/lbs.
 

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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:26 PM
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Nice pics Phil,keep us posted on how you make out.Whose going to tune it for you??
 
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I use Ed, @ TheDynoDifference for tunes locally.

I thought your name was John....???....
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:01 PM
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Looks good Phil ! Another monster motor on the build.

You like that silver case/black cyls and heads look . I think it unique also.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by PhilM
I use Ed, @ TheDynoDifference for tunes locally.

I thought your name was John....???....
Nope,but I've been following your build on here & the other site!!!This site is alot calmer than the other one!!!
 
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 04:40 PM
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I can't wait until you get this thing together. I wanns see how it runs.

On another note - You built my motor - Known me for over a year and still went with no bling on the jugs and the heads??

What am I gonna do with you?
 
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CDP1911
I can't wait until you get this thing together. I wanns see how it runs.

On another note - You built my motor - Known me for over a year and still went with no bling on the jugs and the heads??

What am I gonna do with you?
HAHAHA!

Come on Dre...

I got some barz, I got some cowbells, & several more covington parts..... You should know by now, I move slow on some stuff...



BTW - I also have some cams, a TB, and..... what was that other thing discussed earlier...???...

I can't quite remember... help me.....

Seems like it had something numeric about it...????....
 
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Old Feb 2, 2010 | 09:45 PM
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Just checking in to see if it's ripping down the road yet?

Does Ed's dyno go up as high as this thing will probably take it? You're gonna blow the drum off that dyno! LOL!!!
 
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Looking good Phil. I wondered when you would build something larger. It's addictive.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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now look what you have done; I smell another motor war coming to Atlanta very soon -- we just got through the 107 - 113 - 117 squirmish -- now I guess it's time for the 120 - 124 - 131 conflict to begin.

Good luck with the new build -- folks here (you know who they are) are already secretly contacting T-Man.

Can wait until that thing hits the ground.
 
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