Project 124
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looking great Phil..... it will be a wrench fest up here for the next few weeks with tommy's and mine going together. then some break-in and tunning.... good thing is the second one i tune should go faster since ill be close with the first one... damn i just get all worked up thinking bout rippin down the road on these motors!
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yeap.... class is grabbing the tools, taking your time, asking questions and just flat out doing it. i did that a few years ago and am now on build number 8. seat time on a scoot makes you a better rider, wrench time does the same.... i cant speak for others but anyone wanting to do a build, i would certainly give advice and help as much as i can.... Others in the past have done it for me, it would be the least i could do...
looking great Phil..... it will be a wrench fest up here for the next few weeks with tommy's and mine going together. then some break-in and tunning.... good thing is the second one i tune should go faster since ill be close with the first one... damn i just get all worked up thinking bout rippin down the road on these motors!
looking great Phil..... it will be a wrench fest up here for the next few weeks with tommy's and mine going together. then some break-in and tunning.... good thing is the second one i tune should go faster since ill be close with the first one... damn i just get all worked up thinking bout rippin down the road on these motors!
Glad to see the builds are starting to come together. Bet the results will be great !!!
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I already had a lot of the necessary parts so mine is not necessarilly a good one to compare against. Additionally, there are numerous "options" when doing such a build.
As guesses / estimates go, I'd say somewhere in the 4~6k range. It is worth noting that the price of something like a 113, 117, 120, 124 can all be about the same because they all require similar components & machine work.
Hope that helps..... At least a little.
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Phil. Let me know how that pipe mod works out. Was thinking of trying it myself. Not too expensive an experiment...I picked up a set of Cycle shack 2 inch M pipes for mine. Just wanted to test the boarzilla to see if it restricts any hp. Dont think it will, but the pipes were cheap.
Oh, and did i tell you.......My bike's being tuned now. Something slapped me in the face the other day. I have one of the best EFI tuners around working on my carb'd bike. Why not go Efi.....I outgrew the Mik hsr48 and dont want to buy another carb for a grand+...So I am doing the first ever(i think) carb to delphi EFi connversion!!!
Oh, and did i tell you.......My bike's being tuned now. Something slapped me in the face the other day. I have one of the best EFI tuners around working on my carb'd bike. Why not go Efi.....I outgrew the Mik hsr48 and dont want to buy another carb for a grand+...So I am doing the first ever(i think) carb to delphi EFi connversion!!!
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Phil. Let me know how that pipe mod works out. Was thinking of trying it myself. Not too expensive an experiment...I picked up a set of Cycle shack 2 inch M pipes for mine. Just wanted to test the boarzilla to see if it restricts any hp. Dont think it will, but the pipes were cheap.
Oh, and did i tell you.......My bike's being tuned now. Something slapped me in the face the other day. I have one of the best EFI tuners around working on my carb'd bike. Why not go Efi.....I outgrew the Mik hsr48 and dont want to buy another carb for a grand+...So I am doing the first ever(i think) carb to delphi EFi connversion!!!
Oh, and did i tell you.......My bike's being tuned now. Something slapped me in the face the other day. I have one of the best EFI tuners around working on my carb'd bike. Why not go Efi.....I outgrew the Mik hsr48 and dont want to buy another carb for a grand+...So I am doing the first ever(i think) carb to delphi EFi connversion!!!
I will keep ya posted on the ZillaTrapp. I was talking with the guy that bought my original muffler (in the previous pic) & he has it and is no longer using it. You could probably get it fairly cheap....
If all goes well this week, I "hope" to be firin it up next weekend, but there's a greater than zero chance that some of the festivities this week in Daytona will garner my attention.....
I've got yesterdays pics to post & should make a little more progress tonight.
BTW- what are ya gonna go with for a TB? HPI 58 max flow or perhaps a 62? Do those heads have 1.800 intake ports?
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Isn't that (carb to EFI) ironic! I've only heard of it being done once before. I have a sneaking suspecion you'll like it - particularlly if you get out on some longer trips, away from home geography.
I will keep ya posted on the ZillaTrapp. I was talking with the guy that bought my original muffler (in the previous pic) & he has it and is no longer using it. You could probably get it fairly cheap....
If all goes well this week, I "hope" to be firin it up next weekend, but there's a greater than zero chance that some of the festivities this week in Daytona will garner my attention.....
I've got yesterdays pics to post & should make a little more progress tonight.
BTW- what are ya gonna go with for a TB? HPI 58 max flow or perhaps a 62? Do those heads have 1.800 intake ports?
I will keep ya posted on the ZillaTrapp. I was talking with the guy that bought my original muffler (in the previous pic) & he has it and is no longer using it. You could probably get it fairly cheap....
If all goes well this week, I "hope" to be firin it up next weekend, but there's a greater than zero chance that some of the festivities this week in Daytona will garner my attention.....
I've got yesterdays pics to post & should make a little more progress tonight.
BTW- what are ya gonna go with for a TB? HPI 58 max flow or perhaps a 62? Do those heads have 1.800 intake ports?
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Phil didn't someone take the baffle out of a Fat Cat can and put a super trapp baffle into it with great results...That way your exhast would still flow and to the untraned eye give a touch of Stealth and the sweet fatcat looks,I was thinking it was Dalton but I guess I was wrong
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Phil didn't someone take the baffle out of a Fat Cat can and put a super trapp baffle into it with great results...That way your exhast would still flow and to the untraned eye give a touch of Stealth and the sweet fatcat looks,I was thinking it was Dalton but I guess I was wrong
Yep, it was me, call it a Superzilla! Worked pretty good and really cut the noise down. Worked pretty good on the 120 but what Phil is building now will really flow much more air so not sure how it would work on his build.
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Again making slow but measurable progress....
Rocker box in place, with alignment pins "centering" the box on the head before torquing to spec. Also, notice the clearance between the top of the spring retainer & the rocker box. This is something to check & usually needs some additional breathing room.
New rocker support plates.
New Baisley "Corrected Geometry" roller rockers. These are really nice!
May as well use new shafts with the new rockers & support plates…
Here are the front rockers installed into the support plate ready for install in their new home. Be sure to lube up the new bushings, shafts, rollers, & pushrod cups…
Don't overlook the o-ring between the rocker box & support plates...
Here they are in installed in the rocker box.
This is something I've poo-poo'd in the past, but got them on TR's recommendation. These things are pretty sweet too. The do change plumbing & way the oil separator circuit works.
Here's the box, ready for rocker covers.
That's all for now.....
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Mark ~ I'll get back with ya "offline" about this. In fact, if ya wanna PM me a phone # or email address, I'll get in touch.
Rocker box in place, with alignment pins "centering" the box on the head before torquing to spec. Also, notice the clearance between the top of the spring retainer & the rocker box. This is something to check & usually needs some additional breathing room.
New rocker support plates.
New Baisley "Corrected Geometry" roller rockers. These are really nice!
May as well use new shafts with the new rockers & support plates…
Here are the front rockers installed into the support plate ready for install in their new home. Be sure to lube up the new bushings, shafts, rollers, & pushrod cups…
Don't overlook the o-ring between the rocker box & support plates...
Here they are in installed in the rocker box.
This is something I've poo-poo'd in the past, but got them on TR's recommendation. These things are pretty sweet too. The do change plumbing & way the oil separator circuit works.
Here's the box, ready for rocker covers.
That's all for now.....
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phil,
i don't need an exact amount just a round about figure.Though i am a little surprised at the estimated amount you said for somone that will do it themselfves.I know one day i called my local dealer and they said to me around $12,000 and on top of that they told me i would have to convert to a carburator which totally confrused me,maybe you can tell why they would suggest i would have to do this because once they said that to me i just got off the phone.
i don't need an exact amount just a round about figure.Though i am a little surprised at the estimated amount you said for somone that will do it themselfves.I know one day i called my local dealer and they said to me around $12,000 and on top of that they told me i would have to convert to a carburator which totally confrused me,maybe you can tell why they would suggest i would have to do this because once they said that to me i just got off the phone.
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