LMAO...5 pages about bolt on accessories, and a rub from Nantucket...Life just doesn't get any better!
MoCo Accessories - Poor
Tourer
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 419
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From: Boston
Ya think, being from Nantucket!
I know its hard to believe with the P&A book being over 800 pages and the Drag and Custom Chrome books being 3" thick but there was a time, not to long ago, that if you wanted to add a part to your bike you had to make it yourself or modify something that wasnt designed to fit your bike.
Just might be the actual difference between BIKERS and MOTORCYCLISTS!
I know its hard to believe with the P&A book being over 800 pages and the Drag and Custom Chrome books being 3" thick but there was a time, not to long ago, that if you wanted to add a part to your bike you had to make it yourself or modify something that wasnt designed to fit your bike.
Just might be the actual difference between BIKERS and MOTORCYCLISTS!
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,169
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From: Southern Illinois
Started on my old man's 42 flattie and then kept stealing his 55 pan before he bought me my own 250 Yamaha Big bear. Been thru the Honda fours and the 900 Kaw and now own an 80Honda CB750K an 01 Ultra and an 05 V-Star custom and they are all and have all been pain's in the a** but ya gotta love it!
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 666
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From: Bay Area, CA
I work for a US Mill, one of the last of my kind in West Coast, So your point?
You probabaly process coils from France, Japan, Brazil, Germany, and as you previously mentioned Korea and China. What about CSI in southern California but is that slab will that uses all of the melt sources previously mention. But what about Steel Dynamics, Nucor, US Steel and Mittal. But again what is your point?
But to your point Harley Davidson being a Mid West Manufacturer most likely use mills that are close to their plants. Albeit there is some foreign content in our bikes but by no means the "all" as you have characterized.
Please read my past posts, Langlitz Leathers are the best American made jackets out there, So your point? Also if wish to know Wesco shoe are also very good shoes and particularly the boot I ride with. Just wondering if that is your choice in the shop or on the bike?
But since you have degraded this to a school yard pissing match what jacket and boots are you wearing?
And please what is the point of your ignorant Korean/Chinese Statment?
Please go on.
You probabaly process coils from France, Japan, Brazil, Germany, and as you previously mentioned Korea and China. What about CSI in southern California but is that slab will that uses all of the melt sources previously mention. But what about Steel Dynamics, Nucor, US Steel and Mittal. But again what is your point?
But to your point Harley Davidson being a Mid West Manufacturer most likely use mills that are close to their plants. Albeit there is some foreign content in our bikes but by no means the "all" as you have characterized.
Please read my past posts, Langlitz Leathers are the best American made jackets out there, So your point? Also if wish to know Wesco shoe are also very good shoes and particularly the boot I ride with. Just wondering if that is your choice in the shop or on the bike?
But since you have degraded this to a school yard pissing match what jacket and boots are you wearing?
And please what is the point of your ignorant Korean/Chinese Statment?
Please go on.
2. That was pretty rude considering I was just trying to explain why some accessories may be better than others because of outsourcing overseas, and offered a suggestion on how not to get burned.
3. Let's say I was wrong about "all" the steel in my Road King coming from China. Let's say it is 50%, 20%, 10%, whatever. The point is I am bummed out about all the outsourcing overseas going on. That's why I wrote ...
"but something about a classic American motorcycle jacket
made in China on my back just hit too close to home this time. Maybe I'll just get a Chinese made Harley patch instead.
"4. My Korean/Chinese statement was me wondering why the hell you were so upset about me saying the steel came from China, so I thought you were perhaps Korean. Now I realize could be French, Japanese, Brazilian, or German too.
But again, you missed the point that I am just bummed out about all the outsourcing overseas going on.
5. Next time, try to focus on bigger points a guy is trying to make and less on the minutia and you'll sound less like the ****, nitpicking ***** you apparently are.
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,364
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From: So Cal The Golden State
1. You started this BS with your first comment in post #21, "You have no clue".
2. That was pretty rude considering I was just trying to explain why some accessories may be better than others because of outsourcing overseas, and offered a suggestion on how not to get burned.
3. Let's say I was wrong about "all" the steel in my Road King coming from China. Let's say it is 50%, 20%, 10%, whatever. The point is I am bummed out about all the outsourcing overseas going on. That's why I wrote ...
"but something about a classic American motorcycle jacket made in China on my back just hit too close to home this time.
Maybe I'll just get a Chinese made Harley patch instead."
4. My Korean/Chinese statement was me wondering why the hell you were so upset about me saying the steel came from China, so I thought you were perhaps Korean. Now I realize could be French, Japanese, Brazilian, or German too.
But again, you missed the point that I am just bummed out about all the outsourcing overseas going on.
5. Next time, try to focus on bigger points a guy is trying to make and less on the minutia and you'll sound less like the ****, nitpicking ***** you apparently are.
2. That was pretty rude considering I was just trying to explain why some accessories may be better than others because of outsourcing overseas, and offered a suggestion on how not to get burned.
3. Let's say I was wrong about "all" the steel in my Road King coming from China. Let's say it is 50%, 20%, 10%, whatever. The point is I am bummed out about all the outsourcing overseas going on. That's why I wrote ...
"but something about a classic American motorcycle jacket
made in China on my back just hit too close to home this time. Maybe I'll just get a Chinese made Harley patch instead.
"4. My Korean/Chinese statement was me wondering why the hell you were so upset about me saying the steel came from China, so I thought you were perhaps Korean. Now I realize could be French, Japanese, Brazilian, or German too.
But again, you missed the point that I am just bummed out about all the outsourcing overseas going on.
5. Next time, try to focus on bigger points a guy is trying to make and less on the minutia and you'll sound less like the ****, nitpicking ***** you apparently are.
Based on my statement in # 21 you had no clue, Fact,
Nit-picking just getting the facts straight simpleton.
Last edited by leicafish; Apr 17, 2010 at 01:32 PM.
Banned
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From: null
I couldn't disagree more! I've owned a lot of bikes, jap, british, italian, etc. in my 48 years of riding and now my first Harley, a '10 FLHX which is the finest bike I've ever owned, period! And I've not had any problems with HD's accessories, either and find they are reasonably priced because you get what you pay for.
Cruiser
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 150
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From: leominster, ma
I have been riding since I was old enough to...Finally managed to afford my first Harley in 2007, a Streetglide. I love it. Period. But I will say this....I have put quite a bit of stuff on the bike, and all the billet accesories I have bought were straight from Harley. Am I the only one that thinks there chrome sucks? I keep my bike clean, waxed, just in general I take care of it. It stays in a bike barn during the riding months (that is vented and doesn't seem to build up any condensation to speak of) andit stays in a heated garage in the winter. My chrome shift lever, and highway pegs and mounts are peeling like crazy...and so is my chrome brake lever. When I asked the dealer about it, they said if I had the parts installed at the dealer at the time of purchase they would have been covered by warranty (I have the extended warranty), but because I installed them, they are not. well??? I am not a frigging moron and am pretty good mechanically..I didn;t chip anything installing them...so why wouldn;t they stand behind these parts?..and why are they peeling in the first place? Just saying...and I STILL love my bike....even with my peeling chrome!!
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2010
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I think the issue a LOT of us have is...
When you drop 20K+ on a bike that is touted as the finest thing on 2 wheels, well, you kinda expect it to be the best thing on two wheels.
When you're spending $X on a part that is priced roughly double what it SHOULD be just because it says HD on it, you expect it to fit 100%, 100% of the time, and do EXACTLY what it says it will do - especially if there are less expensive options from other companies which fit better and/or work better.
When you're looking at a labor rate higher than your typical Mercedes or Porsche dealer charges, you damn well expect your "factory trained" technician to get it right the first time, know his job, know that an 09 touring frame is NOT an 08 touring frame, understand that TBW works differently than throttle cables and ABS isnt an add-on part. You expect them to actually READ the tech docs and pay attention in the training classes, and NOT to scratch your bike because they're lazy.
You expect not to be told "thats not a real Harley" by the dealer just because you want a VRod or a Sporty.
You expect not to hear outright lies about technical information.
All of the above would even be tolerable if there weren't alternatives which were less expensive, more reliable, better performing, more comfortable, and had more competent dealerships. Unfortunately for HD, there are alternate domestic manufacturers (and like it or not, Victory IS a domestic manufacturer, and it probably has more domestic parts in it than an HD does) as well as metrics which cost the same or less.
When you're spending $X on a part that is priced roughly double what it SHOULD be just because it says HD on it, you expect it to fit 100%, 100% of the time, and do EXACTLY what it says it will do - especially if there are less expensive options from other companies which fit better and/or work better.
When you're looking at a labor rate higher than your typical Mercedes or Porsche dealer charges, you damn well expect your "factory trained" technician to get it right the first time, know his job, know that an 09 touring frame is NOT an 08 touring frame, understand that TBW works differently than throttle cables and ABS isnt an add-on part. You expect them to actually READ the tech docs and pay attention in the training classes, and NOT to scratch your bike because they're lazy.
You expect not to be told "thats not a real Harley" by the dealer just because you want a VRod or a Sporty.
You expect not to hear outright lies about technical information.
All of the above would even be tolerable if there weren't alternatives which were less expensive, more reliable, better performing, more comfortable, and had more competent dealerships. Unfortunately for HD, there are alternate domestic manufacturers (and like it or not, Victory IS a domestic manufacturer, and it probably has more domestic parts in it than an HD does) as well as metrics which cost the same or less.
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Road Master
Joined: Feb 2010
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An 09 FLTR. Why?
Don't misunderstand me - I love my bike. However, I loathe most of the dealers I've run into.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I expect the dealership and its service department to be at LEAST as knowledgeable about the bikes in general as I am.
Don't misunderstand me - I love my bike. However, I loathe most of the dealers I've run into.
Maybe I'm just weird, but I expect the dealership and its service department to be at LEAST as knowledgeable about the bikes in general as I am.
Last edited by honorsdaddy; Apr 23, 2010 at 12:43 PM.