Se 120r complete engine?
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Heatwave, i can see the need for additional custom maps for those type scenarios if they were available at the push of a button. I still don't know that I want that type of display on my streetglide. A gps is pushing it , now you want to add another screen. It does make it convenient to pop on and change the map if needed. I'm hoping that in general a good tune combined with the sophistication built into the stock computer will be good enough for 98% of the situations I run into.
This would be a great device to have on one of those ironbutt rides across the nation where fuel economy is king.
This would be a great device to have on one of those ironbutt rides across the nation where fuel economy is king.
Maybe my experience is different from others but my 110 engine originally ran extremely hot in hot weather. It currently runs extremely hot on low octane fuel. It runs extremely hot in stop and go traffic. In none of these cases do the narrow band O2 sensors and stock ECU provide much adjustment that's noticeable. Clearly the EPA has severely restricted the ability of HD to enable more flexibility in fuel management of these air cooled engines to accommodate these "hot" conditions (ie richer fuel delivery). Therefore the EPA needs to be told what they can do with their standards while the aftermarket develops tools that better manage fuel in our air cooled engines with the goal of higher performance, cooler engine or whatever the owner views as critical.
For those that prefer to follow the direction of the EPA, I can only wish them good luck while riding their own private Easy-Bake Ovens in order to save the ice flows for polar bears.
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Picking mine up tomorrow and will do the breakin over the weekend unless we get some bad weather. First run on dyno is 132hp/129tq with base map. I'll get the final tune next Tuesday and post up the sheets.
SE120R Kit not Crate
SE roller rockers
SE 58mm throttle body
SE high flow injectors
SE Race Clutch
D&D BossZilla Chrome
SE Heavy Breather
Installed by Bluesprings Harley-Davindson of Bluesprings, MO
SE120R Kit not Crate
SE roller rockers
SE 58mm throttle body
SE high flow injectors
SE Race Clutch
D&D BossZilla Chrome
SE Heavy Breather
Installed by Bluesprings Harley-Davindson of Bluesprings, MO
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Tourer
Joined: Apr 2006
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From: Pittsburgh, PA
I'm looking to install the 120r crate motor on my "07 Dyna and use this new Vision device. Not sure what I will need to do as far as base map goes for the 120r motor.
"Seeker of Freedom"
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,093
Likes: 2
From: Kansas City Area
500 mile break-in ride today: This review is for those who have never ridden anything but stock and are thinking of upgrading to this monster. The 120R is a world of differences than your stock motor. The 120R of course is so stamped a race motor and lives up to the name. I found it to be very mild in the low rpms and quite enjoyable with a few caveat. This bitch is fast as hell!!! Passing other vehicles on those two lane roads where you have a short amount of time to get around that RV is not a problem anymore. It wouldn't matter if there 6 RV; you can pass them all in very short time. The 120R spins up effortlessly and you will find yourself begging for an opportunity to open it up to see what she'll do.
The power band is very wide, I found my self with what seemed like two extra gears. 80mph in 6th gear is about 3000 rpm on the base map in my 09 Street glide. 55-60mph is around the 2000 rpm range. The engine seemed fine cruising at 60mph in 6th, but definately needed a down shift or two if you wanted to feel the full wrath of the beast.
Mine has the SE roller rockers installed, they will be noticed if you opt for these. The sound is acceptable for a person who enjoys the mechanics of a high performance engine. Do not get these if you intend to hear nothing from the engine.
I opted to stick with all Harley recommended equipment which included the SE Race Clutch. Unless you have a very healthy grip, look for alternatives. I found it to be very good in feel and managed the lower rpm range smoothly during slow maneuvers. This is a clutch for the monster grip, if you don't have one you will not be able to ride this bike in stop and go traffic situations.
During break-in 500 miles of 80+highway, drag stop light to stop light, arkansas mountain roads(lots of varied speeds), and in-town driving the bike got on average 40mph with 91octane from whatever station I stopped at. I had about 30lbs of gear and I way 250lbs. Pretty good if you ask me.
120R worth every penny to me. Can't wait to get more touring miles on her.
Note this break-in was done on a base map.
The power band is very wide, I found my self with what seemed like two extra gears. 80mph in 6th gear is about 3000 rpm on the base map in my 09 Street glide. 55-60mph is around the 2000 rpm range. The engine seemed fine cruising at 60mph in 6th, but definately needed a down shift or two if you wanted to feel the full wrath of the beast.
Mine has the SE roller rockers installed, they will be noticed if you opt for these. The sound is acceptable for a person who enjoys the mechanics of a high performance engine. Do not get these if you intend to hear nothing from the engine.
I opted to stick with all Harley recommended equipment which included the SE Race Clutch. Unless you have a very healthy grip, look for alternatives. I found it to be very good in feel and managed the lower rpm range smoothly during slow maneuvers. This is a clutch for the monster grip, if you don't have one you will not be able to ride this bike in stop and go traffic situations.
During break-in 500 miles of 80+highway, drag stop light to stop light, arkansas mountain roads(lots of varied speeds), and in-town driving the bike got on average 40mph with 91octane from whatever station I stopped at. I had about 30lbs of gear and I way 250lbs. Pretty good if you ask me.
120R worth every penny to me. Can't wait to get more touring miles on her.
Note this break-in was done on a base map.
Last edited by itsaw0rkinpr0gre$$; Nov 21, 2010 at 10:26 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 709
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From: Maine
120r
500 mile break-in ride today: This review is for those who have never ridden anything but stock and are thinking of upgrading to this monster. The 120R is a world of differences than your stock motor. The 120R of course is so stamped a race motor and lives up to the name. I found it to be very mild in the low rpms and quite enjoyable with a few caveat. This bitch is fast as hell!!! Passing other vehicles on those two lane roads where you have a short amount of time to get around that RV is not a problem anymore. It wouldn't matter if there 6 RV; you can pass them all in very short time. The 120R spins up effortlessly and you will find yourself begging for an opportunity to open it up to see what she'll do.
The power band is very wide, I found my self with what seemed like two extra gears. 80mph in 6th gear is about 3000 rpm on the base map in my 09 Street glide. 55-60mph is around the 2000 rpm range. The engine seemed fine cruising at 60mph in 6th, but definately needed a down shift or two if you wanted to feel the full wrath of the beast.
Mine has the SE roller rockers installed, they will be noticed if you opt for these. The sound is acceptable for a person who enjoys the mechanics of a high performance engine. Do not get these if you intend to hear nothing from the engine.
I opted to stick with all Harley recommended equipment which included the SE Race Clutch. Unless you have a very healthy grip, look for alternatives. I found it to be very good in feel and managed the lower rpm range smoothly during slow maneuvers. This is a clutch for the monster grip, if you don't have one you will not be able to ride this bike in stop and go traffic situations.
During break-in 500 miles of 80+highway, drag stop light to stop light, arkansas mountain roads(lots of varied speeds), and in-town driving the bike got on average 40mph with 91octane from whatever station I stopped at. I had about 30lbs of gear and I way 250lbs. Pretty good if you ask me.
120R worth every penny to me. Can't wait to get more touring miles on her.
Note this break-in was done on a base map.
The power band is very wide, I found my self with what seemed like two extra gears. 80mph in 6th gear is about 3000 rpm on the base map in my 09 Street glide. 55-60mph is around the 2000 rpm range. The engine seemed fine cruising at 60mph in 6th, but definately needed a down shift or two if you wanted to feel the full wrath of the beast.
Mine has the SE roller rockers installed, they will be noticed if you opt for these. The sound is acceptable for a person who enjoys the mechanics of a high performance engine. Do not get these if you intend to hear nothing from the engine.
I opted to stick with all Harley recommended equipment which included the SE Race Clutch. Unless you have a very healthy grip, look for alternatives. I found it to be very good in feel and managed the lower rpm range smoothly during slow maneuvers. This is a clutch for the monster grip, if you don't have one you will not be able to ride this bike in stop and go traffic situations.
During break-in 500 miles of 80+highway, drag stop light to stop light, arkansas mountain roads(lots of varied speeds), and in-town driving the bike got on average 40mph with 91octane from whatever station I stopped at. I had about 30lbs of gear and I way 250lbs. Pretty good if you ask me.
120R worth every penny to me. Can't wait to get more touring miles on her.
Note this break-in was done on a base map.
"Seeker of Freedom"
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,093
Likes: 2
From: Kansas City Area
You mean the base map that is in the SEPST software? I'm installing the Crate in my Roadglide right now. Lot of things to unconnect and connect. Looks like the bike will never run again parts all over the place. The acr harness has three terminals that you have to add into the ecu plug and move around a few wires in the back of the fuse panel to add the new fuse. got to be careful popping pins out of those plastic plugs i need to use a magnifying glass to see that stuff now.
Yes the map in the SEPST, which will be tuned/remapped in the morning on the dyno.
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Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Downtown Chicago
Going to color outside the lines a little bit with my 120r... Putting in Tman 662 cams, having a little headwork done and a good tune. wont be done for a month or so, will post up dyno sheet when done. Going to be a wild ride for sure!!