Getting ready to "fix" my new 2010 Street Glide and don't know which tuner is the better way to go: SERT or Power Commander (or any other recommendations you might have). Also, what is the reason for your preference? Thanks.

 

I currently have the old version (SERT) before it was a pro super tuner. I am going to send it in to be upgraded to the TTS Mastertune (who used to make the old SERT). Check them out.

 

Due a search and you will find a lot on that subject. Get ready to read back and forth bickering on which is best, good luck. I'm still doing my homework!! lol

 

i'd say go with whichever one your tuner is more familliar with. lots of people very happy with both..........

 

I have the SERT and i like it just fine.Whatever you choose,find a good tuner

 

I think you'll have more options with the PCV such as autotune and the ability to switch between 2 maps on the fly if you want that , one for performance/cooling and the other one for mileage..I get 47-48mpg 2up riding. If you go the PCV route.. buy from Fuelmoto like me and many others here on the forum ,And if you want it really easy.. just give them your specs for your bike and your ridingstyle and they program the PCV for you, just plug n play, they are great guys to deal with.

 

Talk to your tuner.

 

Both PCV, flash-based tuners (SEST, SERT, and TTS), and Zippers Thundermax have their own feature sets and it's up to the prospective buyer research thoroughly and buy the tuner which best fits their needs.

I think it safe to say that most here including me have purchased the PCIII and/or PCV from Fuel Moto, and IMO this is the best bang-for-the-buck option available. Do a search on them and read the positive reviews, as their forte is providing excellent maps matched to your bike and hardware, and to me that is a big deal-maker. The PCV will allow switching between two maps, has a very good feature set that will fit most riders, and can be upgraded to Auto-Tune if desired. Fuel Moto maps are accurate, and any statements that a map created on another bike is not right for yours is simply not true. The map-switch option to me is a big winner for the PCV. You can create one map for gas mileage (lean in the cruise-range) without sacrificing performance as the throttle-position increases, and another set richer in the cruise range for extra cooling when needed. Basically you can have mileage and cooling at the flip of a switch and performance either way. I did a write-up here on setting-up Auto-Tune for this purpose. Another deal-maker for Fuel Moto is their excellent customer service.

Regarding the benefit and accuracy of canned maps, the same goes for the flash-based tuners, but for them these maps are few and far-between. Latus HD and perhaps other do have some maps for these which you can purchase.

The flash-based options are powerful tools that allow you to access the ECM in ways you can't with the PCV, but unless you can find a good canned map will require a dyno-tune to properly tune the open-loop areas. Statements that this isn't required are simply not true because there is no feedback in open-loop mode (above ~50% throttle) with the stock hardware.

Thundermax replaces the ECM entirely and like the PCV AT provides auto-tune capability using Bosch LSU4 wide-band O2 sensors, and Fuel Moto also sells these. IMO the downside to T'Max is that the bike's on-board MAP and knock sensors are disabled, and it is very pricey. The flash-based tuners as well as the PCV all retain functionality of the bike's on-board sensors.

I think it's safe to say that most of the features offered by any of these tuners will not be of use to most riders, as most just want control of AFR's and ignition timing for better cooling and performance. You'll get that with any of these options, and even some of the lower-priced tuners may get you the fundamentals at the expense of less flexibility.

Also, Certified Drunk made a very good point: If you are set on doing a dyno-tune, buy the tuner that person prefers to use.

 

I am very happy with my PCV/AT with the LCD. The LCD allows me to record logs. Also allows me to view the all the engine data as I ride so I know where I need adjustments. You can go to the Power Commander web site for a complete look at what the LCD will do. I can store multiple MAPS and switch them as needed.