07 tranny probs?
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
ORIGINAL: fxr_george
I understand all your guys concerns about a wine in 5 gear but does anybody remeber riding an old shovel head or even for that fact an iron head sportster.
Hell what about a open clutch pan head. You want to hear noise.
Just asking a question?
I understand all your guys concerns about a wine in 5 gear but does anybody remeber riding an old shovel head or even for that fact an iron head sportster.
Hell what about a open clutch pan head. You want to hear noise.
Just asking a question?
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
again, Ill ry to explain the NOT right noise,,,,
1st there is the spur gear(1st and 5th) whine,, we all know it,, and why its there.... ok..
then we have a "Clatter" you get when riding say in 5th at 2000-2400 rpms, which goes away
if you shift at 2500 rpms and stay above that... its there , we gotta deal with it,, HD says its normal..
ok fine,,,,,,, but what about.........
a all day ride,,,,,,, cruiesing at 2800 rpms doing 55-60 mph in 5th,,,,,that very annoying cheeerattering
metalic,scratching,higher pitched clanking, wont go away obnoxiousness???
thats what Im talkin about??????
If I were to jump on my bike right now, (hasnt been ridin),, everything is great, no issues,
but ride it for 3 hours,, forget it!
anyone with me on this?????
1st there is the spur gear(1st and 5th) whine,, we all know it,, and why its there.... ok..
then we have a "Clatter" you get when riding say in 5th at 2000-2400 rpms, which goes away
if you shift at 2500 rpms and stay above that... its there , we gotta deal with it,, HD says its normal..
ok fine,,,,,,, but what about.........
a all day ride,,,,,,, cruiesing at 2800 rpms doing 55-60 mph in 5th,,,,,that very annoying cheeerattering
metalic,scratching,higher pitched clanking, wont go away obnoxiousness???
thats what Im talkin about??????
If I were to jump on my bike right now, (hasnt been ridin),, everything is great, no issues,
but ride it for 3 hours,, forget it!
anyone with me on this?????
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
The IDS should be out or at least available by Monday,maybe sooner.Ive heard around the 20th.Lets hope its worth the wait!No matter what youve heard Hd has attempted to quiet this noise.Months ago I was the one flying off the handle and yes its still a sore spot but I still believe its a noise and not a safety item.Sure its an awful noise for a new machine that isnt seen in other,older bikes youve owned.If you have a radio your hearing probably isnt what it once was.You may find yourself watching out for the law more often because of the way you have to ride these just to drown out the clatter sound.Adding the fork baffle will redirect the air flow from up over tank to across engine,thus redirecting some noise andputting more cooler air where it will do more good,may even help your passenger.Again Im talking about my 07SG,which I also believed had the tranny noise only to find out after dyno testing that the noise was actuallya motoror motor compensator noise.6th gear was my bikes most audible ut 5th also could give it.Hd has tested mine and a few others here and elsewhere.This man explained to me the cause,different story somewhat to what AIM explained,although Donny is right,Baker is right.The noise is a traveling sound.The trans is only reacting to what the front components are sending to it.I would think a known noisey 07 with a baker kit would no longer have the tranny reacting sound but would have a much louder engine sound or compensator sound.This is why the IDS may just work.You will have dampening action at both ends,thus trapping the noise between two components that can absorb this shock the engine is sending.
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
In the interest of accuracy:
Baker does have a product called the DD6. If you are referring to the Baker product designed to quiet the '07 5th gear whine it is the F6F.
I'm 99.9% sure that it iis not illegal to claim that a warantee will be voided if alternate (non HD) fluids are used. I do believe it is illegal if this philosophy is enforced. May sound like symantics, but BIG DIFFERENCE.
Baker does have a product called the DD6. If you are referring to the Baker product designed to quiet the '07 5th gear whine it is the F6F.
I'm 99.9% sure that it iis not illegal to claim that a warantee will be voided if alternate (non HD) fluids are used. I do believe it is illegal if this philosophy is enforced. May sound like symantics, but BIG DIFFERENCE.
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
I have read all 734 posts on this subject. I have a 07 RKC and am one of the lucky ones to have the wonderful "coffee can full of rocks" in 5th gear and sometimes 6th. I have gotten the "its suppossed to sound like that" speech from the Service Mgr. at the dealership. Itold him that if I shook his head I would get the same sound as I do with the bike. I bet hewouldn't think hishead is suppossed tosound like that, or maybe he would. I doubt that I would have gotten the same bike if I had found this site prior, but I still would have gotten a HD. I will say that other than the clatter, I do love the bike. It will just be a matter of either learning to deal with it or wait until I annoyed enough to do something about it, which I don't see as being very long. I will keep my eye on this as I hope that there has to be some type reasonable solution from the MOCO.
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
you just got used to it. i purposely have been riding in 5th gear just so i can get my nervous system used to the wine. ya know, kinda like when ya try to ignore the obnoxous drunk at the bar. well any hows the riding season is in full gear here in central PA and i'm not stoppin now. i'll see what happens after the riding season. i should have about 10,000 miles on by OCT.
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
Peddler you are absolutely correct, thanks for the catch--they are two different products and F6F is the appropriate response here. With regard to the question on HD enforcing an HD product-only moratorium on the engines, I don't disagree that they can say it--but I think if companies like Red Line, Amsoil, Spectro, etc are made aware of such a practice it would certainly arch a few eyebrows.
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RE: 07 tranny probs?
Here is the part # and picturefor the new Isolated Drive System that is supposed to eliminate the clatter in 5th gear. Get on HD's website and plug in the number. Mine is on order with my dealer. Sure hope it works. If it does, I will be a real happy camper. As soon as it is installed, I'll post the results.
