Another speaker question..RF or focal
Cruiser
Joined: Dec 2015
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From: Costa Mesa, CA
The Focal Access line is their entry level speaker... if fact I dont think they actually build that line. I believe that line is being built in China... I'm sure they probably sound decent but if you want real quality Focal speakers I would recommend that you go up a level or two. The Focal CVX models (6.5" or sometimes referred to as a 6.75") has a built in crossover for the tweeter and woofer. Would be well worth the extra money. Crutchfield has them listed as discontinued but they are ususaly on ebay and I seen that Fatbaggers still had them for sale on their site.
www.ebay.com/itm/Focal-165-CVX-165cvx-6-1-2-2-way-CV-Series-6-5-Coaxial-Car-Stereo-Speakers-/290674922868?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item43ad935574&v xp=mtr
www.ebay.com/itm/Focal-165-CVX-165cvx-6-1-2-2-way-CV-Series-6-5-Coaxial-Car-Stereo-Speakers-/290674922868?pt=Car_Speakers&hash=item43ad935574&v xp=mtr
Great info, but I want to add that everyone needs to be CAREFUL when buying Focals on eBay........LOTS of counterfeits on there. Plenty of info on focals website on how to tell the difference...like the laser inscribed serial number on each one. Just so you know.
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From: Midland Twp, MI
There are some Focal KRCs for sale is the classifieds, if you want a top tier speaker at a budget price. Some of the best coaxial speakers there are in my opinion. I've ran Arc Audio, Hertz, and Focal in my fairing.
Definitely check out the audio section here as well. Lots of very knowledgeable guys in there that will help you get the most for your dollar, just let them know a budget.
Definitely check out the audio section here as well. Lots of very knowledgeable guys in there that will help you get the most for your dollar, just let them know a budget.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2012
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From: White Castle, Louisiana
PIONEER TS-D1602R 6.5" are some of the best bang-for-the-buck drivers I've ever heard, and I used to compete in United States Autosound Competition, USAC so I was fortunate to be able to listen to a wide variety.
Shove a couple in that batwing fairing and put an amp on them and ride out!!
Shove a couple in that batwing fairing and put an amp on them and ride out!!
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From: Phoenix '53, '88, '09 Big Twins
you'd have to- the 4Ω pioneer sensitivity rating is 88 dB vs 92 for MM651 or 95 for the Kappas.
so assuming the same power the pioneers would produce less than 1/2 the volume the Kappas put out.
So an amp would certainly be required to use the pioneers to get sufficient volume, they are also 4Ω - our HK radios need to see a 2Ω nominal load
that chews up the bang for buck advantage
not sure how the pinoeer are for weather, they don;t seem to advertise as weatherproof, resistant etc
Mike
Last edited by mkguitar; Jan 7, 2017 at 08:59 PM.
The Pioneer TS-D1602R's appear to be yesterday's news. The Pioneer TS-6900 Pro's are now the go to speaker in the lids according to the audio guru's. Agreed, get your info in the Audio section.
** Ooops. Was thinking 6x9 versus 6.5. My bad. **
** Ooops. Was thinking 6x9 versus 6.5. My bad. **
Last edited by troop; Jan 13, 2017 at 10:44 AM.
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From: Pittsburgh, Pa
Generally speaking, the higher the spl, the less power you need to drive them to loudness. So a smaller amp is needed to drive them to an equally loud volume. Why buy a huge amp when it's not needed?
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