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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by leicafish
I don't know which bike that you ride, but going one up to two or even loading up the tour-pak requires rear shock pre-load changes on my limited and Road King.

I am 140 lbs and my wife weights 105 lbs.
'08 FLHRC. Guess I should figure out how to put that on the signature.

That's a point well taken, as I don't always pay enough attention to the air pressure in the shocks. I'm not saying it's a terrible ride, just that a little less sponginess when I don't want it would be nice. As for weight I'm 215 and as for the 2nd part of the equation, it varies.

If I don't like the stabilizer I will remove it. Looks like a half-hour or so of my time.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 11:13 AM
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Well put fabrik8r. I would only add that fitting a True-Track to both my Glide and Dyna improved the way each bike rides from the moment they start moving. Feeling the bike point better, respond more directly even at walking pace is part of what they do, in addition to providing better handling at speed. They are not trying to turn a touring bike into a racer, but improve the breed and they do it remarkably well.
 

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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by leicafish
True Trak is a placebo, and we go around every thread when it regards this trash. Maintain your bike, learn to ride and learn to react to ridng situations, conditions and senarios. No bolt on snake oil is going to replace skill. Keep drinking the punch but I pass on this.

As I have asked you and the manufacturer how many crashes have you cause by giving a rider a false sense of security, or perceived sense of skill that they do not posses.

As a matter of fact I wonder how many bikes/riders have crash with these unit installed.

Save your money.
Have you even used this product? While I agree on your points about maintenance and rider skill, if you have not used this product, then I find it rediculous to have such a strong opinion. Especially when there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary by those who have actually used the product. But obviously it's no silver bullet that's going to solve problems created by worn parts or suspension issues.
I'm curious what if any suspension upgrades you've done. I can see in your sig that you've added quite a bit of power.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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I installed the bagger brace back in 08 just a few months after I purchased the bike.
I never had the misfortune of the wobble but I installed it soley on the advice of probably a couple hundred satisfied people on here thru a thread just like this one.
I can corner, hit bumps while in a corner and practically drag the mufflers and it handles just fine. Not going to remove just to see if it will wobble. I'm more conserned with the tires not gripping enough and having her slide out from under me!
As I stated in a previous post, I can get some wobble if I remove both hands from the bars and slap one side or the other but can easily be stopped by just hanging on..
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Just been looking at the Glide Pro vids linked from another thread, seems to make more sense than fitting a stabilizer, it actually treats the problem rather than leaving the problem there and adding a minimizer by way of an extra part, don't know which way to go now, going to have to think some more.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Pondskipper
Just been looking at the Glide Pro vids linked from another thread, seems to make more sense than fitting a stabilizer, it actually treats the problem rather than leaving the problem there and adding a minimizer by way of an extra part, don't know which way to go now, going to have to think some more.
I've tried Sta-Bo, then went to Glide-Pro looking for better performance still, then went back to Sta-Bo and returned the Glide-Pro. Same level of improvement in stability, less vibration, lot cheaper, and easier install. Both products address the issue closer to the source but neither fix "the problem", which is the "soft" swingarm pivot/diveline mount design. None of the available products completely cure the undesireable handling but they do greatly reduce it.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 68 Shovelking
Have you even used this product? While I agree on your points about maintenance and rider skill, if you have not used this product, then I find it rediculous to have such a strong opinion. Especially when there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary by those who have actually used the product. But obviously it's no silver bullet that's going to solve problems created by worn parts or suspension issues.
I'm curious what if any suspension upgrades you've done. I can see in your sig that you've added quite a bit of power.
On my Ultra I have done nothing. I use stock rear shocks and fork springs/dampeners.

On the Roadking I have change the fork oil and on the rear I use the coil over premium shocks.

Again I believe in experience and so far all of the "overwhelming evidence" is subjective none of the companies or users have ever supplied quanitative data. It is wrong and dangerous to represent to the public a product that give a false sense of security and false sense of riding ability.

Again an open question to the manufacturers how many bikes have gone down with their units installed.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by leicafish
Again an open question to the manufacturers how many bikes have gone down with their units installed.
Just for the sake of entertainment, If you could aquire this data, what would you do with it, compare to bikes that have gone down with no stabilizer type products installed? And what would that tell you?
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by qtrracer
Take off your ABS placebo then, and learn how to brake properly. Saying what you are saying regarding a stabilizer is just as ridiculous to me as what I just said about ABS must sound to you.
Sorry Charlie I fail to see the correlationin your comparison, I would beleive their is factual data on ABS otherwise Planes, Semis, Trucks and cars would not have them installed OEM.

Stabilizers are myths.

Just wondering which boat are you on in our avitar
 
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Old Mar 9, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by leicafish
Sorry Charlie I fail to see the correlationin your comparison, I would beleive their is factual data on ABS otherwise Planes, Semis, Trucks and cars would not have them installed OEM.

Stabilizers are myths.

Just wondering which boat are you on in our avitar
The Excel. And although I don't know you in any way I could not disagree with you more vehemently than I do with your statement that stabilizers are myths. I realize I am no one to you and I am not qualified to argue why I disagree so I will just leave it lay right there. Be Cool.
 
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