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Just for the sake of entertainment, If you could aquire this data, what would you do with it, compare to bikes that have gone down with no stabilizer type products installed? And what would that tell you?
After that abstract you wrote you would know, if you asking a serious question.
The Excel. And although I don't know you in any way I could not disagree with you more vehemently than I do with your statement that stabilizers are myths. I realize I am no one to you and I am not qualified to argue why I disagree so I will just leave it lay right there. Be Cool.
I respect what you are saying and just as in fishing I will agree to disagree, want to talk about reels or rods LOL.
Serious question, about the boat though , I ride the Royal Polaris
I respect what you are saying and just as in fishing I will agree to disagree, want to talk about reels or rods LOL.
Serious question, about the boat though , I ride the Royal Polaris
Tight LInes and Take Care.
Ok now you got my attention, fishing!!!! I am Calstar and Avet guy so you gotta be a Seeker and Accurate guy, LOL! Going to Fred Hall over the weekend , may book a fall trip for wahoo and bigger yellowfin. It's all good.
Sorry Charlie I fail to see the correlationin your comparison, I would beleive their is factual data on ABS otherwise Planes, Semis, Trucks and cars would not have them installed OEM.
Stabilizers are myths.
Just wondering which boat are you on in our avitar
The correlationin is that you expect us to take your above statements seriously without presenting any factual data, or actual experience. What value is an opinion without either of those to back it up?
I don't really have a dog in this fight, just a guy looking for accurate information.
Ok now you got my attention, fishing!!!! I am Calstar and Avet guy so you gotta be a Seeker and Accurate guy, LOL! Going to Fred Hall over the weekend , may book a fall trip for wahoo and bigger yellowfin. It's all good.
The correlationin is that you expect us to take your above statements seriously without presenting any factual data, or actual experience. What value is an opinion without either of those to back it up?
I don't really have a dog in this fight, just a guy looking for accurate information.
I don't have a dog in the fight either, I don't use the product because I do not need the product. But I have a big problem with a company that try to sell their products with "Death Wobble " names and videos.
And you have made the point and understand the point I make. Where is the factual quanitative data. Where is the quanitative data from these companies. I only see hype in the form of users opinion, subjective.
I've read several post on the "death wobble". I'm not sure what the cause, but I sure don't want to experience it. I recently was about to take mine out for a spin when I thought, hey why not use the new tire guage my wife bought me and I was shocked when I found out that I had less than 28psi in both tires!! I now check them often. I also have been down on a bike back in 1994 and after my broken collarbone collapsed my lung, I decided that I would keep my speed down and just enjoy the ride. I'm glad to hear that you were able to save it and make that corner.
I wonder, really. How much of this problem is pilot error?
I mean, you guys obviously know these bikes better than me.
But we all know compensating (or over compensating) on a bike can throw all kinds of squirrly **** in the mix. Like on grated roads or steel bridges. Trying to "fight" the handlebars. It don't work!!
Some of you guys clock hundreds of thousands of miles on these touring motors w/o a hiccup.
As I prev stated, I was behind a guy who's bike went into this little dance from a dip in the road in a turn. He did what most of us would do. When in doubt, GAS IT. He was as stable as a freight train in about 1 second, hit the freeway at about 85 mph, banged 5th and was gone.
I wonder, really. How much of this problem is pilot error?
I mean, you guys obviously know these bikes better than me.
But we all know compensating (or over compensating) on a bike can throw all kinds of squirrly **** in the mix. Like on grated roads or steel bridges. Trying to "fight" the handlebars. It don't work!!
Some of you guys clock hundreds of thousands of miles on these touring motors w/o a hiccup.
As I prev stated, I was behind a guy who's bike went into this little dance from a dip in the road in a turn. He did what most of us would do. When in doubt, GAS IT. He was as stable as a freight train in about 1 second, hit the freeway at about 85 mph, banged 5th and was gone.
(grew up in Sunnyvale, 1958 - 1971, miss the weather, the scenery, a few friends, but not crowds!
Last edited by mike5511; Mar 10, 2012 at 03:23 AM.
You're plainly not an engineer! Next time you see ANY Buell, or a rubber mount Sportster, take a close look. You will find they both have three stabilizers, one up front, like a Touring bike, another at the heads and a third behind the trans.
Stabilizers are a FACT and a True-Track kit provides US with an extra one of these wonderful things! Time you tried a bike with one fitted. And don't confuse it with any of the other dozen or so products that claim to do the same by other means.
I am not connected with True-Track in any way, but I am a professional engineer, Harley rider for over thirty years and customer of TT for five of those.
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