2:1 and Dragula questions
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2:1 and Dragula questions
I'm contemplating switching to a 2:1 exhaust system. All the Dragula talk has pricked my interest. 
I have an '05 Ultra, 95", Andrews 26 cam, and mild head work. My current exhaust system consists of the factory Y-pipe and FuelMoto Jackpot mufflers.
I have a few questions, some are general to 2:1 systems and some Dragula specific, so here goes:
1.) Since the OEM Y-pipe is somewhat of a 2:1 system already and the FuelMoto Jackpots are supposedly tuned to enhance performance of that system, what performance gains is a true 2:1 system going to provide me? I'm especially interested in TQ in the 2500-5000 RPM range. My current setup breaks 90 TQ at 3100 and hold above 90 until 4900. I'd like it to come on earlier. Max TQ of 96 at 3700 and HP of 86. Thoughts and experiences would be appreciated.
2.) Given my build, is a stepped header, like the Dragula, the best solution for me, or would I be better served with a non-stepped design like Dragos SC/4 or a Pro-Pipe?
3.) Most of my miles are logged on long, multi-day tours and I must have an exhaust that will not wear on me day after day. Before the Y-pipe/Jackpot combo that I currently have, I ran true duals with VH Ovals and found the percussive, staccato sound of that configuration to be very tiring on cross country tours. It wasn't the volume so much as the "pounding". My Y-pipe/Jackpot configuration is much "smoother" and I'm thinking the same would be true of a 2:1. Does anyone have touring experience with the Dargula yet?
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have an '05 Ultra, 95", Andrews 26 cam, and mild head work. My current exhaust system consists of the factory Y-pipe and FuelMoto Jackpot mufflers.I have a few questions, some are general to 2:1 systems and some Dragula specific, so here goes:
1.) Since the OEM Y-pipe is somewhat of a 2:1 system already and the FuelMoto Jackpots are supposedly tuned to enhance performance of that system, what performance gains is a true 2:1 system going to provide me? I'm especially interested in TQ in the 2500-5000 RPM range. My current setup breaks 90 TQ at 3100 and hold above 90 until 4900. I'd like it to come on earlier. Max TQ of 96 at 3700 and HP of 86. Thoughts and experiences would be appreciated.
2.) Given my build, is a stepped header, like the Dragula, the best solution for me, or would I be better served with a non-stepped design like Dragos SC/4 or a Pro-Pipe?
3.) Most of my miles are logged on long, multi-day tours and I must have an exhaust that will not wear on me day after day. Before the Y-pipe/Jackpot combo that I currently have, I ran true duals with VH Ovals and found the percussive, staccato sound of that configuration to be very tiring on cross country tours. It wasn't the volume so much as the "pounding". My Y-pipe/Jackpot configuration is much "smoother" and I'm thinking the same would be true of a 2:1. Does anyone have touring experience with the Dargula yet?
Thanks in advance for your input.
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I don't have the dragula but I do have the scs 4 set up and we are pulling similar numbers. I asked Frank at Dragos the same question and he told me for what I'm doing, a 3 step header may take away more than add to my build. however, I suggest you give him a call.
Give me a call would be more than happy to spend all the time you need to talk and answer your questions.
Your Y pipes is not a stepped header its is 1.3/4
But call me would be more than happy to help.......
Thanks
F.Drago
Your Y pipes is not a stepped header its is 1.3/4
But call me would be more than happy to help.......
Thanks
F.Drago
I'm contemplating switching to a 2:1 exhaust system. All the Dragula talk has pricked my interest. I have an '05 Ultra, 95", Andrews 26 cam, and mild head work. My current exhaust system consists of the factory Y-pipe and FuelMoto Jackpot mufflers.
I have a few questions, some are general to 2:1 systems and some Dragula specific, so here goes:
1.) Since the OEM Y-pipe is somewhat of a 2:1 system already and the FuelMoto Jackpots are supposedly tuned to enhance performance of that system, what performance gains is a true 2:1 system going to provide me? I'm especially interested in TQ in the 2500-5000 RPM range. My current setup breaks 90 TQ at 3100 and hold above 90 until 4900. I'd like it to come on earlier. Max TQ of 96 at 3700 and HP of 86. Thoughts and experiences would be appreciated.
2.) Given my build, is a stepped header, like the Dragula, the best solution for me, or would I be better served with a non-stepped design like Dragos SC/4 or a Pro-Pipe?
3.) Most of my miles are logged on long, multi-day tours and I must have an exhaust that will not wear on me day after day. Before the Y-pipe/Jackpot combo that I currently have, I ran true duals with VH Ovals and found the percussive, staccato sound of that configuration to be very tiring on cross country tours. It wasn't the volume so much as the "pounding". My Y-pipe/Jackpot configuration is much "smoother" and I'm thinking the same would be true of a 2:1. Does anyone have touring experience with the Dargula yet?
Thanks in advance for your input.
I have an '05 Ultra, 95", Andrews 26 cam, and mild head work. My current exhaust system consists of the factory Y-pipe and FuelMoto Jackpot mufflers.I have a few questions, some are general to 2:1 systems and some Dragula specific, so here goes:
1.) Since the OEM Y-pipe is somewhat of a 2:1 system already and the FuelMoto Jackpots are supposedly tuned to enhance performance of that system, what performance gains is a true 2:1 system going to provide me? I'm especially interested in TQ in the 2500-5000 RPM range. My current setup breaks 90 TQ at 3100 and hold above 90 until 4900. I'd like it to come on earlier. Max TQ of 96 at 3700 and HP of 86. Thoughts and experiences would be appreciated.
2.) Given my build, is a stepped header, like the Dragula, the best solution for me, or would I be better served with a non-stepped design like Dragos SC/4 or a Pro-Pipe?
3.) Most of my miles are logged on long, multi-day tours and I must have an exhaust that will not wear on me day after day. Before the Y-pipe/Jackpot combo that I currently have, I ran true duals with VH Ovals and found the percussive, staccato sound of that configuration to be very tiring on cross country tours. It wasn't the volume so much as the "pounding". My Y-pipe/Jackpot configuration is much "smoother" and I'm thinking the same would be true of a 2:1. Does anyone have touring experience with the Dargula yet?
Thanks in advance for your input.
+1 I running the Dragula on my 120R w/Ghost Pipe and the quality is A-1. I'm also running th 3.05 baffle and my build/engine is a bit more radical then yours, thus the pipe really screams when I get on the throttle.
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Thanks, ThaGlylde. I, too, have concerns regarding a stepped header being too much for my build. The most significant difference that I see in our builds is that I have head work (AMS heads - cnc'd, and ported with with 1.9 intake valves). I am not sure if that is significant enough to best utilize a stepped header.
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I have no experience of Dragula, but do have a 2-into-1 system. Compared with my previous set-up I get improved low/mid range torque, but the real bonus is the motor is much smoother running and a far sweeter ride.
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[QUOTE=grbrown;9562494]I have no experience of Dragula, but do have a 2-into-1 system. Compared with my previous set-up I get improved low/mid range torque, but the real bonus is the motor is much smoother running and a far sweeter]
Do you think the smoothness you mention is a characteristic of 2:1 exhausts in general or is it unique to the SuperMeg that you are running?
Do you think the smoothness you mention is a characteristic of 2:1 exhausts in general or is it unique to the SuperMeg that you are running?
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I had read good things on HDF about Supermegs and liked that they don't make too much noise. My wife and I tour on this bike, so want comfort in every department! The improvement in the way the bike rides is an unexpected bonus.
So for a practical exhaust that doesn't draw attention to itself, that runs really well, it is a good choice. It is the only 2-into-1 I have tried and it will stay on the bike a long time I reckon!
We live in the UK and my sig pic is of the bike at rest in France on our way home from Budapest in Hungary, a round trip of close to 3k miles. We saw some bad weather, so she wears her travel stains with pride!
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