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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 04:28 AM
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Any flaws in my logic or interpretation of the facts? Please advise.
Spot on! The Progressive uses a shorter stabilizer link which I personally am not keen on, as the geometry is compromised, but that is what choice is all about!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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So from what I can conclude from all this is that the glide pro firms up the engine by turning the rubber into an almost solid mount. That has to have a negative side effect. The engine would definitely transfer vibration to the rest of the bike. It would have to.

To me the True Track or the Progressive Link is the way to go. The engine remains rubber mounted so the vibration is isolated yet the link would keep it from flexing laterally when cornering.

Since I have a center stand it seems the Progressive Link is my best choice, and as a bonus for me it's half the price of the others. I like it, it seems well made and easy to install.

Any flaws in my logic or interpretation of the facts? Please advise.
No, the Glide Pro set up does not turn the bike into a "hard mount" set up. It simply improves on the material used by the MoCo AND increases the surface area that the azze end of the bike hangs on. The result, naturally, from a stronger mounting purchase would be a slightly "buzzier" feel which actually dissipates as the swingarm isolator mounts settle in.

The Glide Pro front engine mount upgrade actually allows the engine to move more smoothly in the vertical plane. Again, just go watch the vids Jake has up and SEE the proof. He was an aviation engineer so he understands the principles involved very thoroughly and this is simple stuff for him.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
Spot on! The Progressive uses a shorter stabilizer link which I personally am not keen on, as the geometry is compromised, but that is what choice is all about!
I missed this thread when first introduced, but will belatedly offer some opinions. I installed the RideStr8 stabilizer five years ago and have found it to reduce the tail-wagging behavior on sweepers considerably. The Progressive TL is essentially the same design, and since the RideStr8 is apparently no longer being produced I would recommend the TL not only for its effectiveness but also its price. The TWR "Missing Link" is another brand that uses this design, but it is more expensive than the TL.

After installing the RideStr8 I did a write-up here where I gave some opinions about competitive products including the True Track. I don't know if some of those brands mentioned back then are still being made, however.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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Thanks for the great explanation! I was wondering if you know whether its true that adding one of the supports to the newer frames 09 and later will cause an increase in vibration as some have eluded to? Thanks again for a great and in depth explanation.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Thanks for the great explanation! I was wondering if you know whether its true that adding one of the supports to the newer frames 09 and later will cause an increase in vibration as some have eluded to? Thanks again for a great and in depth explanation.
I don't know of anyone who's installed one on an '09 or later bike, and my understanding is that doing so would be unnecessary. I also don't recall hearing of any complaints about this with newer bikes.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:29 PM
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I don't know of anyone who's installed one on an '09 or later bike, and my understanding is that doing so would be unnecessary. I also don't recall hearing of any complaints about this with newer bikes.
Aw come on! Just read through some of the replies above and the many other recent bagger wobble threads.

Originally Posted by Rickr01
Thanks for the great explanation! I was wondering if you know whether its true that adding one of the supports to the newer frames 09 and later will cause an increase in vibration as some have eluded to? Thanks again for a great and in depth explanation.
There are not as many kits available for the later models as for earlier ones. I cannot give you firm any assurance that vibration will be different, but there are enough happy True-Track owners out there to suggest they are fine.

I have deliberately ridden my own bike with and without the rear stabilizer and while the handling and stability are definitely different, I could only detect a slight difference in feel through the bike. It certainly doesn't vibrate more.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iclick
I don't know of anyone who's installed one on an '09 or later bike, and my understanding is that doing so would be unnecessary. I also don't recall hearing of any complaints about this with newer bikes.
You can certainly hear alot of complaints about his with newer bikes ON THE INTERNET. My suggestion is to run (don't walk) for the nearest exit from this thread and other "wobble" threads (which pop up like dandelions).
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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Aw come on! Just read through some of the replies above and the many other recent bagger wobble threads.



There are not as many kits available for the later models as for earlier ones. I cannot give you firm any assurance that vibration will be different, but there are enough happy True-Track owners out there to suggest they are fine.

I have deliberately ridden my own bike with and without the rear stabilizer and while the handling and stability are definitely different, I could only detect a slight difference in feel through the bike. It certainly doesn't vibrate more.


Good read! Thanks to all who commented!
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by grbrown
Spot on! The Progressive uses a shorter stabilizer link which I personally am not keen on, as the geometry is compromised, but that is what choice is all about!

GrBrown, In your opinion does the rear mounted stabilizer work as well as a front mounted one? I'd like to hear your comments contrasting the front vs rear models. (ps if you already did that somewhere in the last 240 posts, just give me the number.

Tactical111, I'm not too excited about the Glide pro simply because I'm reluctant to change the parts that were engineered by HD. I have a notion that by firming up those mounts it might void the warranty if something went wrong, or worse could cause a failure that could be life threatening. In my opinion doing something that will amplify the vibration can have no positive outcome. I might be wrong but I don't want to loose any sleep over it. Besides the price is double, and sounds like a lot of work to get them installed properly. So I look at glide pro as a last resort.

If the rear mounted Progressive link can do a reasonable job then that's the one I'll go with.
 

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by luisan
I have the E-Z UP center stand with the Progressive Touring LInk and Ricor Intiminators in the front fork.No interference and no wobble on my '06 Ultra.
Luisan, thanks for the info. Do you have aftermarket shocks as well?
 
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