Bagger wobble exposed!
Last edited by grbrown; Aug 20, 2014 at 09:02 AM.
It still amazes me to think half of the bike's weight and almost all of of the rider and passenger sits on that inner washer and is held by four bolts ... and an up to 103 ci engine dances on top of it. I'll admit it must have taken a lot of confidence, or some very definite engineering calculations to design. But I find the bike feels so uncertain at 80 mph + that I just don't go there.
BTW, just to add to this conversation if I have not said so already. After about a year or 8,000 miles, I check the Heim/Rose joint on the Progressive stabilizer and found it to be very worn ... I'm talking about 1mm or so wobble. Therefore, if you have one, don't presume that that is it and it is fixed forever. The joints are consumables.
Progressive uses normal 'hard' rod end bearings (Teflon?), without any facilites to lubricate them, unlike the limited travel and sealed rubber joints that H-D uses for the engine mounts. I don't know what they are called nor where they come from but they are different. I presume H-D uses them because they don't need maintenance. Or do they absorb micro-vibrations?
I've replaced mine with a heavy duty set from a company that specializes in racing automobiles. They are cheap enough to do so. I have no idea if they will make a difference.
And, guys, you can buy them anodised in black too ...
Interestingly, they are now making rod end bearings in plastics - or combined steel and plastic - which are said to absorb vibrations and outlast metal ones, however, I have not studied up on their relative load capacities as I write this, so I am unable to comment intelligently about them (web says tensile loads of up to 15kN/3372lbf ?). This might be worth looking into as they are corrosion free ... technology outstripping our relics from an industrial age?
As I ride in the wet and winter, I put rubber boots on mine. Although I have been warned they degrade fairly quickly due to UV. Not a lot of sunlight and UV under an H-D transmission, methinks.
As for your Progressive link, the action of that is off-set from the centre-line of the bike, unlike the other two on your bike; it is also shorter. The beauty of the True-Track is that it is true to the original concept, uses equal length links and the engine end of each is on the vehicle's central plane, where they kinematically belong.
True "track" enough.....!
I totally agree, but sorry, I'm not an engineer, that's all I got to add....
I must admit I could never figure out how they managed to patent it, after all the system already exists and was patented by Buell. Judging by the number of similar systems out there I guess its not a robust patent, maybe just for marketing purposes.
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Anything I would have to look out for ... a longer rod end bearing set ... ground clearance? Has to be doable.
Sadly, the previous owner of my bike was a cheapskate who went for a Progressive.
Anything I would have to look out for ... a longer rod end bearing set ... ground clearance? Has to be doable.
Sadly, the previous owner of my bike was a cheapskate who went for a Progressive.








