2012 103 pinging HD solution
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From: Harleysville, PA
2012 HD/RK - 103 engine w/oil cooler 3,500 miles (100% stock), pinging under acceleration, popping sound from exhaust when under deceleration when hot, ambient temp around 92 degrees. Im using highest octane fuel available, what is the correct non-Band-Aid repair; its still under factory warranty?
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2012 HD/RK - 103 engine w/oil cooler 3,500 miles (100% stock), pinging under acceleration, popping sound from exhaust when under deceleration when hot, ambient temp around 92 degrees. Im using highest octane fuel available, what is the correct non-Band-Aid repair; its still under factory warranty?
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From: Harleysville, PA
Maybe I should rephrase the question; does anyone know what the problem is and the long term solution? The reason Im asking my scoot is at the dealership in winter storage and need to address my problem to the Techs. I would like to be on top of all the excuses or angles they might through at me. Im a old school car guy and new to the bike world, and would appreciate any professional insight on this topic that may help.
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Maybe I should rephrase the question; does anyone know what the problem is and the long term solution? The reason Im asking my scoot is at the dealership in winter storage and need to address my problem to the Techs. I would like to be on top of all the excuses or angles they might through at me. Im a old school car guy and new to the bike world, and would appreciate any professional insight on this topic that may help.
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Weird note: I have seen top jug gasket cause this on one bike and it was a booger to track down. It acted like another spark when hot causing the pre ignition, a real bastard to track down. paul
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How far off must the timing be to ping with the recommended grade fuel? With the ION sensing system in place doesn't the ecm retard the timing quite a bit before it is no longer retarding, like 10 degrees? Sounds like there is something else amiss, if the bike is stock that is and still pinging.
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How far off must the timing be to ping with the recommended grade fuel? With the ION sensing system in place doesn't the ecm retard the timing quite a bit before it is no longer retarding, like 10 degrees? Sounds like there is something else amiss, if the bike is stock that is and still pinging.
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That's my point, what is wrong with the ION sensing? If I remember correctly it will take out up to around 10 degrees of timing. Assuming premium fuel, stock HD plugs are used along with stock wires, and the system IS enabled , the system should work. Maybe it is in the ecm and the software is wrong and thats what they are doing.
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How far off must the timing be to ping with the recommended grade fuel? With the ION sensing system in place doesn't the ecm retard the timing quite a bit before it is no longer retarding, like 10 degrees? Sounds like there is something else amiss, if the bike is stock that is and still pinging.
With my Power Vision I can change that if I want.