Bagger Wobble: Dealer Explanation...
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Bagger Wobble: Dealer Explanation...
Anyone care to comment?? I am frustrated as hell with my dealer right now. My bike has been at the dealer for the past 2 months while I have been on rotation overseas.
Took it in for chrome front end and rear rim/tire install as well as the dreaded idle control issue/ shutting down after long freeway cruises while coming to a stop. Also asked them to look into the WOBBLE issue most of us experience at speed on sweepers etc..
I am currently running a 21/16 set up. Lowered w/ progressive drop ins up front 1 inch and Bitchin Baggers rear drop shocks 11.25 inch and a Bagger Brace.
After having my bike for the past 2 months to address my concerns, here is what I got back from the dealer in an email last night:
"Didn’t get into wobbles and handling concerns because the TECH and I are in agreement that it is more than likely in the rear suspension of the bike. That is strictly due to how low those shocks are, and the fact that they are an air shock versus a coil over oil dampened style of shock. "
"We replaced your front valve stem and it appears to have corrected the loss of tire pressure that you were experiencing. That could be one of the issues causing the wobble, and handling condition. "
And now for the idle/ shut down issue:
"In regards to the running condition and the bike shutting down on decel on the highway. We checked and cleaned the pertinent sensors as well as checked the download that is in the bike just to be sure everything was proper. Bike runs good and strong as always and on the highway loops we could not get it to cut out at all. "
Thanks for the ear.. Comments are welcomed....
Took it in for chrome front end and rear rim/tire install as well as the dreaded idle control issue/ shutting down after long freeway cruises while coming to a stop. Also asked them to look into the WOBBLE issue most of us experience at speed on sweepers etc..
I am currently running a 21/16 set up. Lowered w/ progressive drop ins up front 1 inch and Bitchin Baggers rear drop shocks 11.25 inch and a Bagger Brace.
After having my bike for the past 2 months to address my concerns, here is what I got back from the dealer in an email last night:
"Didn’t get into wobbles and handling concerns because the TECH and I are in agreement that it is more than likely in the rear suspension of the bike. That is strictly due to how low those shocks are, and the fact that they are an air shock versus a coil over oil dampened style of shock. "
"We replaced your front valve stem and it appears to have corrected the loss of tire pressure that you were experiencing. That could be one of the issues causing the wobble, and handling condition. "
And now for the idle/ shut down issue:
"In regards to the running condition and the bike shutting down on decel on the highway. We checked and cleaned the pertinent sensors as well as checked the download that is in the bike just to be sure everything was proper. Bike runs good and strong as always and on the highway loops we could not get it to cut out at all. "
Thanks for the ear.. Comments are welcomed....
Last edited by LoneWolf01; Jun 21, 2013 at 01:41 AM. Reason: Removed a name
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Anyone care to comment?? I am frustrated as hell with my dealer right now. My bike has been at the dealer for the past 2 months while I have been on rotation overseas.
Took it in for chrome front end and rear rim/tire install as well as the dreaded idle control issue/ shutting down after long freeway cruises while coming to a stop. Also asked them to look into the WOBBLE issue most of us experience at speed on sweepers etc..
I am currently running a 21/16 set up. Lowered w/ progressive drop ins up front 1 inch and Bitchin Baggers rear drop shocks 11.25 inch and a Bagger Brace.
After having my bike for the past 2 months to address my concerns, here is what I got back from the dealer in an email last night:
"Didnt get into wobbles and handling concerns because the TECH and I are in agreement that it is more than likely in the rear suspension of the bike. That is strictly due to how low those shocks are, and the fact that they are an air shock versus a coil over oil dampened style of shock. "
"We replaced your front valve stem and it appears to have corrected the loss of tire pressure that you were experiencing. That could be one of the issues causing the wobble, and handling condition. "
And now for the idle/ shut down issue:
"In regards to the running condition and the bike shutting down on decel on the highway. We checked and cleaned the pertinent sensors as well as checked the download that is in the bike just to be sure everything was proper. Bike runs good and strong as always and on the highway loops we could not get it to cut out at all. "
Thanks for the ear.. Comments are welcomed....
Took it in for chrome front end and rear rim/tire install as well as the dreaded idle control issue/ shutting down after long freeway cruises while coming to a stop. Also asked them to look into the WOBBLE issue most of us experience at speed on sweepers etc..
I am currently running a 21/16 set up. Lowered w/ progressive drop ins up front 1 inch and Bitchin Baggers rear drop shocks 11.25 inch and a Bagger Brace.
After having my bike for the past 2 months to address my concerns, here is what I got back from the dealer in an email last night:
"Didnt get into wobbles and handling concerns because the TECH and I are in agreement that it is more than likely in the rear suspension of the bike. That is strictly due to how low those shocks are, and the fact that they are an air shock versus a coil over oil dampened style of shock. "
"We replaced your front valve stem and it appears to have corrected the loss of tire pressure that you were experiencing. That could be one of the issues causing the wobble, and handling condition. "
And now for the idle/ shut down issue:
"In regards to the running condition and the bike shutting down on decel on the highway. We checked and cleaned the pertinent sensors as well as checked the download that is in the bike just to be sure everything was proper. Bike runs good and strong as always and on the highway loops we could not get it to cut out at all. "
Thanks for the ear.. Comments are welcomed....
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Have you looked into installing a true track... did this with several bikes and it cured the wobble. http://www.true-track.com
With the brace, proper air pressure in the tires and the rear shocks, I was surprised to still feel the wobble although not as pronounced as before the brace was added. The next major change that I cannot comment on is the addition of the new wheel/ tire on the rear (matching 16" RC w/ Metzeler tire).
I found the explanation of the rear shocks "more than likely" to be the culprit, interesting to say the least, especially since the bike did the same thing with the stock shocks....
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You may have posted in the wrong thread... I guess everyone that changes their set up from stock in search of improved handling, style and appearance is inviting problems? The bike handled poorly before the changes. Sorry, but my BS meter is pegged right now.. Move along.....
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You made major changes to the geometry, suspension and unsprung weight. tires, tread pattern, sidewall (and as above leaky front valve stem so inconsistent pressure)
so the "problems" are now "yours".
so dreaded this and that, the take away is that you now do not get the function and enjoyment of this machine as you should.
Money wasted.
as for driveability, is this a stock bike or has something been down to the motor tuning etc as well.
you don't talk about speeds, the front end on a batwing bike will unload above 85ish MPH wind speed- this makes the front end loose
mike
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[QUOTE=LoneWolf01;11436378]You may have posted in the wrong thread... I guess everyone that changes their set up from stock in search of improved handling, style and appearance is inviting problems?[QUOTE]
Style and appearance have nothing to do with handling characteristics.
And yes, changing anything from stock does invite problems....................
p.s. I'm sure i've posted in the correct thread.
Style and appearance have nothing to do with handling characteristics.
And yes, changing anything from stock does invite problems....................
p.s. I'm sure i've posted in the correct thread.
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You may have posted in the wrong thread... I guess everyone that changes their set up from stock in search of improved handling, style and appearance is inviting problems? The bike handled poorly before the changes. Sorry, but my BS meter is pegged right now.. Move along.....
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So basiclly the stealer told you they are not looking at it and replaced a valve stem for you. Go find another dealer dude, one that wants your business and truly cares for its customers. Your bike is brand new, I am surprised the dealer didnt jump all over it just to get warranty work,=money in their pocket.