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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 0ldhippie
I took my Hayden out and made the stock auto tensioner a solid manual one.


Set at 5/8" and welded



Just got back from 1000+ ride and all seems good.
Your picture makes that look like it is not adjustable but fixed in one position. That would mean it certainly isn't automatic but it isn't really a manual one either if it can't be adjusted. Am I missing something? How is that new compensator working out?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 11:33 AM
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Default I need to check my Hayden wear

Installed my Hayden a while ago, will check mileage later. Its at least 3k miles. Small gap, smaller than their documentation required. Stiff springs but I could move the chain by hand with some force. Shifting is much better but primary whine is louder.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by sargek
Installed my Hayden a while ago, will check mileage later. Its at least 3k miles. Small gap, smaller than their documentation required. Stiff springs but I could move the chain by hand with some force. Shifting is much better but primary whine is louder.
That whine is why I pulled mine out.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2014 | 11:58 AM
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I say Bullshhhhit!..

Here's my stock one with about 35000 on it.. Cant really see it but You could bearly see the "Tracks" where it was wearing..basiclly looked new.. (That was 2yrs ago)

I would probably take a real good look at your chain for sharp areas

 
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 02:48 AM
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I took mine on a 100 mile ride today. 60 miles were in the twisty stuff, mainly 2nd to 4th gear. Gear changes felt better than the stock adjuster. When I took the stocker out at 27,500 mile it had virtually no wear from the chain. I took it on a hard accelerating/decelerating ride a couple of months ago and since then thought the gear changes where not as "nice" as before. I thought that the stock auto adjuster had ratcheted up too far. After installing the Hayden, it is much tighter than the stock HD item.... I'll give it another 500 miles and pull the primary and have a look. Kind of wishing I had a look on the net before buying this Hayden unit....
 

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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by btsom
Your picture makes that look like it is not adjustable but fixed in one position. That would mean it certainly isn't automatic but it isn't really a manual one either if it can't be adjusted. Am I missing something? How is that new compensator working out?
Yes it is fixed/welded in one position. Set at 5/8" freeplay. If it ever does need adjustment weld can be ground, reset and rewelded. But primarys seldom ever needed adjusting before auto tensioners???
Jury is still out on the on the compensator, but it's not sounding good??
 
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Here's my story, had a hayden on my 2000 flht and loved it, now have 2013 sg so I put one on it and was very happy with it , yes the chain was a little tight but was told by Hayden that it would fine. Now I start seeing all of the bad comments on the internet and start to get concerned, now have 4500 miles on it and decide to take a look, happy to say all looks good, slight wear grooves on shoe. Change the fluid and button it back up. will check in 3 or 4k miles.

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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hallze
I took mine on a 100 mile ride today. 60 miles were in the twisty stuff, mainly 2nd to 4th gear. Gear changes felt better than the stock adjuster. When I took the stocker out at 27,500 mile it had virtually no wear from the chain. I took it on a hard accelerating/decelerating ride a couple of months ago and since then thought the gear changes where not as "nice" as before. I thought that the stock auto adjuster had ratcheted up too far. After installing the Hayden, it is much tighter than the stock HD item.... I'll give it another 500 miles and pull the primary and have a look. Kind of wishing I had a look on the net before buying this Hayden unit....
UPDATE.

I went on a 3000 Km trip with the Hayden installed. At about the half way mark I could hear a slight noise and feel that some thing wasn't normal. When I got back home I pulled the primary cover and could see the chain had worn in to the shoe a bit as it was supposed to. The chain was still way too tight so I pulled it out and put the stocker back in.

I then did another couple of thousand kms on a few trips but the noise caused by the Hayden didn't go away. The noise was a constant "rumble" that changed pitch in relation with road speed. I pulled the primary and gearbox apart and found the gearbox main drive gear bearing was stuffed. The race and ***** were chewed out in the 9 O'clock position when looking at it still installed in the case. To me this shows the Hayden was too tight and put too much pressure on the primary chain which in turn loaded up the bearing.

Its been a costly exercise so far. $700ish in tools from Georges Garage (which are great quality and I'm very happy with). Plus another $350 - $400 in parts from Harley.

I'm yet to see what Hayden are going to do but I doubt it will be anything...
 
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What an all around crappy design. Why a chain? Why not a simple gear drive? And a nylon shoe, WTF is up with that? Where do all those little nylon pieces go?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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This thread scares me. I have been sitting on a Hayden swap for the past year. Every time I find the time to do the job, this thread gets resurrected. Seems like this is an omen...
 
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