Emergency Stopping Drills, 2-Up
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Emergency Stopping Drills, 2-Up
Riding season is starting and I like to buff up on braking skills and practice 2-up. My Ultra has the grab handles under the seat and explaining to the wife about holding onto these instead of driving me into the handlebars. I live at the end of 1/2 mile dead end street. Plan on accelerating hard to about 40 MPH and stopping short of a skid. Is it safe to say that I can use more rear brake with the weight on the back. I've done this exercise quite often solo but never with the wife. Think I got her talked into it this year.
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Either way, you get 70% braking power from the front. Never grab the front all at once; engage the front brake and progressively squeeze as you are stopping. If you lock the back, keep it that way. If you lock the front, release and reapply. If not sure which is locked, release front and reapply. Perhaps a first couple runs at 20mph before adding speed.
I hope you find this helpful. Stay safe.
I hope you find this helpful. Stay safe.
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From: Phoenix '53, '88, '09 Big Twins
thing about a panic stop is the Pass. may not know it is going to happen- in the real world.
if you don't have abs, the rear is still secondary, you can apply it until you feel it lock and release- but work more on the front.
as you know from the Pass pushing into you, all the weight is moving forward.
I wonder if a driver backrest would help contain the pass to her seat
kudos.
I practice all the time.
maybe it'll save my ***.
my thoughts on abs/brembos.
when I was going to test ride the 09 ( which I bought)- I did a panic stop on my '95 FLHTC from 55 MPH.
marked the beginning and end
then I took the 09 to same place and hammered the brakes at 55.
I stopped in 2/3 distance
the abs is great in the loose grit, and I hope in a panic, it'll take care of traction control while I try to steer around.
I know that many riders have skill levels better than the abs, they tell me all the time.
i am not one of them. The abs is better than I am
mike
if you don't have abs, the rear is still secondary, you can apply it until you feel it lock and release- but work more on the front.
as you know from the Pass pushing into you, all the weight is moving forward.
I wonder if a driver backrest would help contain the pass to her seat
kudos.
I practice all the time.
maybe it'll save my ***.
my thoughts on abs/brembos.
when I was going to test ride the 09 ( which I bought)- I did a panic stop on my '95 FLHTC from 55 MPH.
marked the beginning and end
then I took the 09 to same place and hammered the brakes at 55.
I stopped in 2/3 distance
the abs is great in the loose grit, and I hope in a panic, it'll take care of traction control while I try to steer around.
I know that many riders have skill levels better than the abs, they tell me all the time.
i am not one of them. The abs is better than I am
mike
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Well dang! You mean to tell me that not more of us are practicing this 2-up?? And no...I don't have ABS, my bike is an 02. Ok, ok, it sounds more like that many of us don't have the nerve to ask the wife to practice this. Hmmm maybe I should ask this to the boy scouts over on the Gold Wing forum
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From: usa
Good thread/post! 100 percent smart idea to practice, or at least do one emergency stop, with 2 up or even your normal luggage load.
Great reminder....
Great reminder....
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I have the philosophy that if the ABS kicks in, I need to work on my braking skills, because I did something wrong.
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I practice, working up to 40 mph. reason I practice is to not lock rear brake. Because I practice each year, I have saved my own **** several times. Panic stops have been right at 40 mph.
I also practice slow speed stuff, using the rear brake, feathering the throttle, eyes and head looking where I want to go and it make a turn around simply easy.
I also practice swerves..up to 40 mpg. One night coming home at 70+ all of a sudden there was a large doe in front of me. I swerved right, swerved left and missed her by inches. I then released my throttle and the rear end broke free. I managed to keep it upright but it was not pretty. Now when I practice I keep the throttle going and slow down slowly. I had never practiced keeping going after the swerve as I practiced in a parking lot and at 40, you just get back pressure. At 70, you can break the rear tire free. Now I know.
I think practicing with your wife is the right thing to do. I also think that if you practice up to 40, you will have the correct skills at faster speeds. I do not believe you need to practice a swerve at 70 to be able to swerve at 70. Once you hone your skill at 40, it translates to any normal speed.
I also practice slow speed stuff, using the rear brake, feathering the throttle, eyes and head looking where I want to go and it make a turn around simply easy.
I also practice swerves..up to 40 mpg. One night coming home at 70+ all of a sudden there was a large doe in front of me. I swerved right, swerved left and missed her by inches. I then released my throttle and the rear end broke free. I managed to keep it upright but it was not pretty. Now when I practice I keep the throttle going and slow down slowly. I had never practiced keeping going after the swerve as I practiced in a parking lot and at 40, you just get back pressure. At 70, you can break the rear tire free. Now I know.
I think practicing with your wife is the right thing to do. I also think that if you practice up to 40, you will have the correct skills at faster speeds. I do not believe you need to practice a swerve at 70 to be able to swerve at 70. Once you hone your skill at 40, it translates to any normal speed.
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I also practice swerves..up to 40 mpg. One night coming home at 70+ all of a sudden there was a large doe in front of me. I swerved right, swerved left and missed her by inches. I then released my throttle and the rear end broke free. I managed to keep it upright but it was not pretty. Now when I practice I keep the throttle going and slow down slowly. I had never practiced keeping going after the swerve as I practiced in a parking lot and at 40, you just get back pressure. At 70, you can break the rear tire free. Now I know. .