Whether or not someone can do something is not the same as whether or not they will do it. I wouldn't know the different either way

I know that I cant tune it, so I can only go by what the people that can tune it tell me

The guy at throttle city told me to wait till Dynojet comes out with a base map that has cams, and he will tune it from that.
I'm not about to call him up and tell him he's wrong, or that he should be able to do X, Y, or Z.

Other peeps have vouched for him that he does good work.

 

Have you called Dynojet yourself? I had an engine build done recently, a big bore with a Wood 77x cam. After the build the bike was running OK, but it kept throwing a code that said it wasn't reading the rear knock sensor. We kept trying to track the problem down locally without success. We also were working with Fuel Moto to try to figure it out. Finally, on the recommendation of a friend, I called Dynojet directly. I got a really helpful guy, who got a description of the build, and then sent a tune out for it. The bike is running that canned tune, and it is running great for about 1500 miles now.

The point of this is that Dynojet does have base maps with at least some cams. I dunno if maybe they don't have many available, or if they are not ready to go public with them, but I know for sure that they have at least some of them available. So, my suggestion is that you call Dynojet directly and see if they can help you get up and running. It might save you a trip with a trailer, and you can still get a dyno tune done to back it up.

WLW

 

Yeah I talked to dynojet. They told me to fill out a tune request, so I did.

Got an email reply today that they had delivered the requested tune. I looked at what they sent and it was for a high flow intake, a stock exhaust, and a stock cam.

There was no mistake in my request, they just delivered something completely different and totally useless

Just say you dont have the tune I requested. Sending me that was like pissing in my face

 

That is interesting... Once access to the ECM is achieved, I would think a good tuner could then tune the bike..

I know there was a learning curve for tuners when Harley started offering bikes with RDS, but the good tuners rose to the occasion. Apparently the Gen2 VVT is another issue that requires extra knowledge and skill.... But I thought not all Gen2 M8 engines had the VVT...

Sorry you have to deal with this, but in the end, it will be a learning opportunity for many people on this site...

Keep us posted if you find a tuner willing to step up, and what they say about the Gen2 tuning issues...

 

Actually I did find the man. Throttle City will definitely tune my bike for me once I get a base tune that has an aftermarket cam from
DynoJet or Fuel Moto.

Prolly just a couple few weeks since Fuel Moto has already stated that they will have tunes for some cams starting in July.

Thas good enough because the guy said the cam didnt have to be the same one I have. I guess its just to provide a starting point

Anyway, its looking less like I screwed myself, and more like I just delayed completion of my bike by a few weeks BUT also saved myself a bunch of extra work since, if I had delayed
installing the cam and just did stage 1, then I'd still have to take that exhaust and intake back off again and install it a second time after doing the cam when they come out with maps for it
in July.

I'd just rather be riding, and I wanna hear what the bike is gonna sound like

Patience is a virtue that I do not posess. I guess the Lord is teaching me

 

Well OK.

I can now say that I did not screw myself. I simply tested my own patience

To sum up, as previously mentioned, Fuel Moto and DynoJet were not going to be putting out any tunes in the near future for the Andrews 485 cam I had installed.
Maybe someday, but not at this point.

The reason is that it just wasn't performing in the Gen2 like it did with Gen1 and they were focusing on cams that were designed for the gen2

So I determined that the Zippers Red Shift 528 looked like a good fit, and got some confirmation from fuel moto that this was going to be a well supported cam that they had really good results from,
bought the cam, tore the bike down again, pulled out the andrews cam and put in the rs528.

Saved on one step. used magnets to hold up the lifters so i didnt have to pull the tappet blocks off again. every little bit helps.

put it all back together again, (this was a week ago) and Fuel Moto had yet to release maps with cams so while I was good to go, I still had the stock map
in the bike so it wasnt running.

Took the opportunity to install an AIM SDR variable pressure clutch

Anyhoo, those boys at Fuel Moto are working overtime getting these maps out. Got an email today (Sunday) that Lucas shared a tune with me

So I launched off the couch at pretty much mach 3, went to the garage, set the thing up and flashed the tune

At this point im a bit nervous. Id done exhaust and intake myself on previous bikes, but all the deeper stuff internal (cam, comp ramp, clutch, etc) was the first time id ever done those things and while I was confident I'd done the work right I still
had some fear I had @#%$ up the bike

Nope

i ran the starter a few times with plugs out to get some oil pressure up and circulating, put the plugs back in and hit it and it started right up. Loud and awesome
This cam is stronger than the one I had on my 09 twin cam, and it idles like the most awesome hot rod with that sweet lope. the exhaust is loud but not ridiculous
and the thing rides like a totally different bike. The torque is monstrous and awesome
Its not just stronger, louder, and faster though. but it just rides more smoothly. The stock setup the throttle was really twitchy and annoying, and not super easy to maintain a smooth steady pace, especially when cornering,

This bike is a thousand percent better across the board.

I put it through its paces quite a bit and it felt great in pretty much all circumstances and it ran great. I'm sure getting it dyno'd would tweak every last bit out of it, but now
getting that done is a choice, not a necessity.

So I didnt screw myself. I got a better cam than my first pick, had to do some extra work installing another cam, and the whole process took longer than expected, but I'm 100% happy with the outcome

Anyone with a gen 1 need an Andrews 485? This is a great cam and I have no use for it. It has zero miles on it