Primary upgrade time!
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From: TOAK western branch
No. I don't have a bang on start anymore and it never lurches when putting it in first cold. Smooth as silk.
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From: Bay area, CA
Great job man! That clutch seems to get better as the miles pile on, I'm runnin about 18oz of fluid right now and I haven't noticed any clutch drag. So you have no new noise coming from the primary at all?? No ticking or like the sound of marbles rolling around??? I think there's something wrong with mine but it's done it since day one. If it ever starts raining I'm sending it back to bandit to have them check it out. It performs great but damn it's loud!
Suede winter time is the best time to do your 124". If you start ordering parts now you'll be tearing up the streets in the spring!
Suede winter time is the best time to do your 124". If you start ordering parts now you'll be tearing up the streets in the spring!
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From: N Texas
Great job man! That clutch seems to get better as the miles pile on, I'm runnin about 18oz of fluid right now and I haven't noticed any clutch drag. So you have no new noise coming from the primary at all?? No ticking or like the sound of marbles rolling around??? I think there's something wrong with mine but it's done it since day one. If it ever starts raining I'm sending it back to bandit to have them check it out. It performs great but damn it's loud!
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From: Northern VA
Great job Alan. Looks like a good upgrade and you had fun doing it.
I will add though for others reading this my setup w/ 2014 style SE Compensator, Hayden M6 tensioner, stock clutch w/ beefier spring is pretty darn smooth. Neutral is incredibly easy to find and shifting through the gears isn't so sloppy since changing out my shift linkage to a heim joint design. That fancy clutch of yours really begins to shine with a big inch motor. Speaking of which did you already order a 126" or are you holding out for a Dragon 143"? Go big or go home!
Matt
I will add though for others reading this my setup w/ 2014 style SE Compensator, Hayden M6 tensioner, stock clutch w/ beefier spring is pretty darn smooth. Neutral is incredibly easy to find and shifting through the gears isn't so sloppy since changing out my shift linkage to a heim joint design. That fancy clutch of yours really begins to shine with a big inch motor. Speaking of which did you already order a 126" or are you holding out for a Dragon 143"? Go big or go home!
Matt
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From: N Texas
Great job Alan. Looks like a good upgrade and you had fun doing it.
I will add though for others reading this my setup w/ 2014 style SE Compensator, Hayden M6 tensioner, stock clutch w/ beefier spring is pretty darn smooth. Neutral is incredibly easy to find and shifting through the gears isn't so sloppy since changing out my shift linkage to a heim joint design. That fancy clutch of yours really begins to shine with a big inch motor. Speaking of which did you already order a 126" or are you holding out for a Dragon 143"? Go big or go home!
Matt
I will add though for others reading this my setup w/ 2014 style SE Compensator, Hayden M6 tensioner, stock clutch w/ beefier spring is pretty darn smooth. Neutral is incredibly easy to find and shifting through the gears isn't so sloppy since changing out my shift linkage to a heim joint design. That fancy clutch of yours really begins to shine with a big inch motor. Speaking of which did you already order a 126" or are you holding out for a Dragon 143"? Go big or go home!
Matt
After you do your engine build, I bet you are going to need more than the SE clutch spring but maybe you will be OK. I can't remember exactly when my shifting went to annoyingly bad, sometime after my engine build and +1 Alto Carbonite clutch kit install. I just know it was really taking away from the enjoyment of riding and I had to try something.
We will have to agree to disagree on the Hayden chain tensioner. When I read that Baker recommends 5/8" to 7/8" chain movement and my Hayden was piano string tight, I just could not live with it. Maybe yours has broken in nicely, but I was too impatient...just think a super tight chain cannot be good for bearings.
"Go big or go home" ?? Have you changed your mind on your build? Did you sell your 106" cylinders?
You know that I have looked at that FM 126"!!
Man that looks awesome, but the co$t 
when you add in a new throttle body, air cleaner, dyno tune, shipping, etc, etc - probably be $10K easy! For that kinda money one could buy a nice used 2nd Harley. Anyway if I do something it wont be for a year or more. Thinking about wheels/tires/rotors right now...
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From: Northern VA
We will have to agree to disagree on the Hayden chain tensioner. When I read that Baker recommends 5/8" to 7/8" chain movement and my Hayden was piano string tight, I just could not live with it. Maybe yours has broken in nicely, but I was too impatient...just think a super tight chain cannot be good for bearings.
You know that I have looked at that FM 126"!! Man that looks awesome, but the co$t when you add in a new throttle body, air cleaner, dyno tune, shipping, etc, etc - probably be $10K easy! For that kinda money one could buy a nice used 2nd Harley. Anyway if I do something it wont be for a year or more. Thinking about wheels/tires/rotors right now...
Man that looks awesome, but the co$t when you add in a new throttle body, air cleaner, dyno tune, shipping, etc, etc - probably be $10K easy! For that kinda money one could buy a nice used 2nd Harley. Anyway if I do something it wont be for a year or more. Thinking about wheels/tires/rotors right now...
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My bike lurches forwars when I start it in gear. What is the cause of it and is it a bad thing?
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Normal. Its parasitic drag from cold fluid and fully immersed clutch discs. A Bandit doesn't have the discs in the fluid and has better clutch to steel separation.
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When I inspect my primary over the winter I'm going to check to see if my chain has been slapping/hitting any metal on my primary.
I think is fine normal riding, but wide open hotrodding I have the feeling that it give way to much......if that's the case gonna make the switch to the Baker tensioner.
I was just going to add a rear tire over the winter and now I'm getting tire, EBC contour rotors front and back, new diamond engineering rotor & pulley bolts, AND possibly tensioner and baker comp.
NEVER ENDS!
I think is fine normal riding, but wide open hotrodding I have the feeling that it give way to much......if that's the case gonna make the switch to the Baker tensioner.
I was just going to add a rear tire over the winter and now I'm getting tire, EBC contour rotors front and back, new diamond engineering rotor & pulley bolts, AND possibly tensioner and baker comp.
NEVER ENDS!