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Old Jan 26, 2020 | 07:13 PM
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OK, that answers the question. I took another look at the first picture you posted, zoomed in for a closer look. Based on your comment that the "bearing puller is to large" and "hammered into the old bearing" I am wondering if you just have a mis matched plate vis the puller or perhaps the kit is for the later models with larger inner cam bearings. The early models have inner cam bearings that are .875" ID but the later model inner cam bearings are 1" ID.

Also remember that the collet must be fully collapsed and even then, it will require a push to go into the cam bearing; not a hammer but a little nudge. It won't just slip in as it is supposed to flare out once through the bearing ID to the collet flange can grab the outer cage of the bearing.

it says it's for 99-06

I leaned on it and I can feel it wanting to start going in, but it springs back, I think if I tap on it with a mini sledge it should work it's way in. I have one around here somewhere... Also have a hide hammer and a rubber mallet, it's not as heavy as the little sledge but it might work.

I have the cam plate in the freezer right now. Doubt the cam will press out by hand. Debating getting a hydraulic press, I have access to a couple of them but I don't like to wear out my favors.. I also might.have a bottle jack floating around, if I can get it under something straight enough I could push it out with that...
 
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Old Jan 27, 2020 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Prodigal_Sun
It says 99-06. I leaned on it and I can feel it wanting to start going in, but it springs back, I think if I tap on it with a mini sledge it should work it's way in. I have one around here somewhere... Also have a hide hammer and a rubber mallet, it's not as heavy as the little sledge but it might work.

I have the cam plate in the freezer right now. Doubt the cam will press out by hand. Debating getting a hydraulic press, I have access to a couple of them but I don't like to wear out my favors.. I also might.have a bottle jack floating around, if I can get it under something straight enough I could push it out with that...
Can't argue with what it says but it should not require any hammering; maybe a tap but no more. Make sure the collet is threaded out far enough that the four jaws will totally collapse inward. If you **** up and knock some of those little rollers loose and they fall into the crank case you will be hammering your head against the wall.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 09:26 AM
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Can't argue with what it says but it should not require any hammering; maybe a tap but no more. Make sure the collet is threaded out far enough that the four jaws will totally collapse inward. If you **** up and knock some of those little rollers loose and they fall into the crank case you will be hammering your head against the wall.
The biggest reservation I have with it is that the end of the puller doesn't have anywhere to put a wrench to keep it from spinning. I'll be hammering my head on the wall if I get it on there and can't get the dang thing back out again!
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 03:03 PM
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The biggest reservation I have with it is that the end of the puller doesn't have anywhere to put a wrench to keep it from spinning. I'll be hammering my head on the wall if I get it on there and can't get the dang thing back out again!
I don't think you understand how the tool works. If it didn't come with instructions go to You Tube; lots of videos.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 03:56 PM
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I don't think you understand how the tool works. If it didn't come with instructions go to You Tube; lots of videos.
More likely I'm not communicating well.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2020 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Prodigal_Sun
More likely I'm not communicating well.
I looked at the picture of the tool parts again and I think I understand what you are saying and we have not been communicating very well; I have been out in the weeds.
The puller does not have a "head" that will accept a socket or wrench so there is no way to press the puller/collet into the bearing bore. I think you have two choices; send the tool back for a refund or use two nuts of the appropriate size/thread and double nut them onto the threaded end of the puller. Once the two nuts are locked against each other, the puller can be run into the bearing bore and when the collet opens up on the backside of the bearing, unlock the two nuts and thread one of them down against the plate and use that nut to pull the bearing.

Most other tools, like the Heartland tool everyone has been referring to includes a puller with a head that will accept a socket or wrench.
 
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 06:08 AM
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i had a customer bring in a case messed up trying to replace the inner bearings,DONT install the rod down the center of the tool until AFTER its pressed thru the bearing (this is what he did & tried to hammer the puller thru the bearing with the rod in the center of the tool)
 

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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 06:44 PM
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i had a customer bring in a case messed up trying to replace the inner bearings,DONT install the rod down the center of the tool until AFTER its pressed thru the bearing (this is what he did & tried to hammer the puller thru the bearing with the rod in the center of the tool)
I did know that from a youtube video of a different setup. I went through and replaced o rings last night. Tried tapping the puller on, no go. The puller is too soft of a metal, and scrapping off. Fortunately I noticed and got the shavings out. Doesn't seem to have done the bearing any harm. I think I'm going to leave them alone for now, and come back to it with a better kit. Still waiting for the cams to come in, probably pick up a press this weekend and reassemble.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2020 | 06:13 PM
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No cams yet. Ordered on the 22nd from surdyke dot com have been reading some horror stories on Yelp about them since then. At best they're slooooowwwww, at worst they never ship and don't refund. Most people canceled and they try and charge a 20% restocking fee. Apparently they have some kind of connection with surdykeharley dot com which is a legit dealership but are operated completely separately and have no inventory but order from Harley then ship back out. Prices were the best I could find with free shipping over $99 but not by much. They have fine (and blurry) print that flashes on their home screen, almost impossible to read...

I went to their site to chat with customer service. Entered my email, name and order number to initiate the chat, then just buttered up the rep. Figured they probably get berated all day by pissed off people. She seemed extremely grateful to be treated like a human being and offered up no less than 3 excuses in the brief interaction even though I never once inquired about my order XD.

If it arrives in the next week or two, no harm no foul since it's winter anyway, if it doesn't I'll just yank the order through PayPal, they'll just take the money straight back out of their account. Either way I'll know better next time. :/
 
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No cams yet. Ordered on the 22nd from surdyke dot com have been reading some horror stories on Yelp about them since then. At best they're slooooowwwww, at worst they never ship and don't refund. Most people canceled and they try and charge a 20% restocking fee. Apparently they have some kind of connection with surdykeharley dot com which is a legit dealership but are operated completely separately and have no inventory but order from Harley then ship back out. Prices were the best I could find with free shipping over $99 but not by much. They have fine (and blurry) print that flashes on their home screen, almost impossible to read...

I went to their site to chat with customer service. Entered my email, name and order number to initiate the chat, then just buttered up the rep. Figured they probably get berated all day by pissed off people. She seemed extremely grateful to be treated like a human being and offered up no less than 3 excuses in the brief interaction even though I never once inquired about my order XD.

If it arrives in the next week or two, no harm no foul since it's winter anyway, if it doesn't I'll just yank the order through PayPal, they'll just take the money straight back out of their account. Either way I'll know better next time. :/
I have found Newcastle HD, formerly Zanotti's, the best online supplier of HD parts. Competitive pricing, might save a bit with Boardwalker but Newcastle has been very easy to deal with on refunds and via their chat feature.
 
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