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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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There's no way to get the bottom from the top there's a shoulder there. Will a blind hole puller work?

For grease on these is the green grease brand okay for these or should I get something different?

Are the races okay to be pounded in or do I need to make a press out of a bolt or something?

For what it's worth I think if I didn't pull it apart that small piece of metal would have fallen off and jammed the race or locked the bars while riding. Could have been the end of the road for the shake, the bike and me.
Did this not long ago. There is almost no lip to pound on and a long drift punch did the best for me. It was a pain staking process but was able to knock the races out. If the bearing was seized DO replace the races. Once ya get them out put the new races in the freezer (kitchen frig or what ever) I left mine over night, had things set and ready to go. Took one race and put it in with minimal effort, got the second race and it went in well also. For conversation I put the lower in first and the upper on last. The lower bearing on the triple tree I cut it loose with a cut off wheel attached to a die grinder. Did kinda nick where the bearing sets but not enough to worry with. Used the same drift punch to seat the lower bearing in place. reassemble and adjust. Ya ever preloaded and adjusted a wheel bearing on a vehicle?? Kinda the same WP
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:20 PM
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Tried the puller but it's too small. They don't have a bigger one. Will have to try the dremel tomorrow. What would cause the marks in the race? Over tightening or impact?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kp877
There's no way to get the bottom from the top there's a shoulder there. Will a blind hole puller work?

For grease on these is the green grease brand okay for these or should I get something different?

Are the races okay to be pounded in or do I need to make a press out of a bolt or something?

For what it's worth I think if I didn't pull it apart that small piece of metal would have fallen off and jammed the race or locked the bars while riding. Could have been the end of the road for the shake, the bike and me.
I recommend the bearing kit from Sears our even the cheapo from Harbor Freight but what I did was..
Grabbed a 18" piece of threaded rod, .75", and a few nuts and washers and tightened until I was blue in the face. Since you live in the lovely Commonwealth then you'll only need to ride a few seconds until you find a pothole to test how well you installed the bearings and races.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2014 | 09:59 PM
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Do you have a welder? If so then weld a bead around inside face of the race - once it cools down it contracts and pulls the race away from the side of the neck. It should then be a simple job of tapping them out.

If you cannot tap them out then weld a bridge (or even a nut) across the diameter of the race and use that as a focal point for a puller or lever system to pop the race out.

You can dremel them out, but you have to be very careful to not nick the fork stem too much.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Tee&Vee
I recommend the bearing kit from Sears our even the cheapo from Harbor Freight but what I did was..
Grabbed a 18" piece of threaded rod, .75", and a few nuts and washers and tightened until I was blue in the face. Since you live in the lovely Commonwealth then you'll only need to ride a few seconds until you find a pothole to test how well you installed the bearings and races.
The guy at autozone assured me it was big enough, i had the new bearings in my hand so he knew the size, but it wasn't even close. I'll check the other stores today. I hate buying specialty tools because I end up never using them again.

You're right about potholes, I thought it was just this end of the state, the roads are terrible around here, they haven't cleaned up the sand from the winter either, haven't seen one street sweeper yet.

I don't have a welder, wish I did. I'll look into the sears and harbor freight. I've done the dremel method before, but it takes a while, i go slow so I don't damage anything. I did this with the IPB and it wasn't fun.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by kp877
Tried the puller but it's too small. They don't have a bigger one. Will have to try the dremel tomorrow. What would cause the marks in the race? Over tightening or impact?
1 setting in one place for a long time
2 add condensation which causes rust
3 lack of grease in and around the bearing

can certainly add up to the marks being there.

kinda doubt those marks came from overtighting or impact

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What's odd is they felt ok with everything bolted up. After I took the wheel and fork tubes out and moved the trees from side to side there was an awful screeching noise and it felt like it was binding. It was like a whole different feeling. Glad I pulled it apart.
 
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Originally Posted by kp877
What's odd is they felt ok with everything bolted up. After I took the wheel and fork tubes out and moved the trees from side to side there was an awful screeching noise and it felt like it was binding. It was like a whole different feeling. Glad I pulled it apart.
When ya get back together you may be able to tell the difference.
Looking at the pics Yea Buddy It was a good thing you ck'd them.

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Old Jul 15, 2014 | 08:08 PM
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Got the races out or the stem and put the new ones in. Need help with the inner race stuck on the stem now. I put a torch on it for awhile. It won't budge. The book says to just heat until it falls off. About how long should that be? I can't get it to budge at all
 
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Originally Posted by kp877
Got the races out or the stem and put the new ones in. Need help with the inner race stuck on the stem now. I put a torch on it for awhile. It won't budge. The book says to just heat until it falls off. About how long should that be? I can't get it to budge at all
Well its dremel time again. Are what I call a cut off wheel. Thin fiber circular piece that will cut metal very well. usually used with a die grinder. Haven't better way of describing it in words. Use something like this to make a vertical cut on each side of the inner race. (180 degrees apart) Place a chisel in the cut and knock it with a hammer. Should split or separate the race enough to come off. Least that has worked for me several times. WP

A propane torch probably won't get it hot enough, tried that I had to resort to above mentioned way.


http://www.harborfreight.com/1-4-qua...der-93389.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/pack-of...tal-45430.html

Something like these, alittle on the big side but can be worn down to a good diameter to make good cut for ya
 

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