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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 07:33 AM
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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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Okay, okay be easy on me guys but.........Harley started in '03. It says it's a 1912 ad but the ad says "Producers of high grade motorcycles for eleven years"
See the problem? Or I'm just completely blind to something very obvious, which happens often enough for me.
Cool ad though. I like that the next make bike lost by over an hour??
 
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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Yes, the company was formed in 1903, but Bill Harley started with engine design in 1901 and worked with Art Davidson to build the engine for two years in a friend's machine shop. I can see the argument for the truth in their advertising go either way. Although the Motor Company had not been producing motorcycles for 11 years when the ad came out, but one can still argue that the advertisement is accurate because the founders of the company had been working on their product for two years prior to the formation of the company.

It's just semantics, right?
 
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Probably the same reason that the 1954 bikes were 50th anniversary models. It's all a matter of what date you start counting from.
 
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I enjoy this debate about the HD company founding date.

What date was their (Bill & Art) first business license issued 1901?
Did company incorporate 1903?

Then 1954 being 50th anniversary...well?
 
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Originally Posted by Kenny94945
I enjoy this debate about the HD company founding date.

What date was their (Bill & Art) first business license issued 1901?
Did company incorporate 1903?

Then 1954 being 50th anniversary...well?
Was there such a thing as a business license back then? This was even before a permanent Federal income tax.

I wonder how many fewer entrepreneurs like Ford, Westinghouse, Eastman, Edison, and Harley we would have had if the regulatory environment was the same back then as it is now?
 
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Wow!! 8HP is featured!
 
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Maybe -

The ad was dated 12/12/12 so maybe the 1913's were out. 1903 - 1913 equals 11 model years.
 
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They built, and maybe even sold a few bikes before formally starting up the company. Unlike start-ups today, which can be fully capitalized(with other people's money) before ever having produced a product or service.
 
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