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Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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Default Heim Joint Shift Linkage Installed - Locknut Question

Before I'm chastised for not using the search feature, I have looked through the dozens of posts on this subject, but I didn't see an answer to this question.

I just installed a shift linkage with heim joints. I've got it adjusted to the same length as the OEM linkage. On the back end attached to the lever coming up from the transmission, I've got it secured with a button head bolt, blue lock tight, tightened down snugly. On the front end, I'm using another button head hex bolt with a nylon lock nut.

Here's my concern: if I tighten the front nut down snugly, it causes the shifter arm to bind against the heim joint, and it will not allow the shifter to snap back, ready for the next shift. I have move the shifter up or down with my boot. If I back off the lock nut, so the bolt is spinning freely inside the heim joint, all is fine. (I think this is how the OEM linkage worked with the acorn nut snugged down, letting the ball joint spin freely under the rubber boot - but, I'm not sure - I didn't pay that much attention to it when I took it off)

If I leave the nylon lock nut "backed off" so the bolt will spin inside the heim joint, will it stay in that position, or will I be stranded on the side of the road, fishing a zip tie out of my tool bag after the lock nut and bolt have bounced down the road?

Is that the whole purpose of a nylon lock nut? I know it's a simple question, but I don't know the answer, and I'd rather appear ignorant here than have to do a roadside repair. Thanks.
 
Old Feb 15, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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How tight you have the nuts and bolts should have nothing to do with the ball socket swiveling inside of the heim joint. This is on forward controls or on mid mount controls?
 
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As long as you are not sandwitching the ball in the socket and the end piece all together at the same time you should not have a problem.
 
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How tight you have the nuts and bolts should have nothing to do with the ball socket swiveling inside of the heim joint. This is on forward controls or on mid mount controls?
Sorry, it's on an 06 Fat Boy - so I guess you'd call the controls mid mount.
Maybe there's something wrong with the heim joint then? The ball inside the heim joint doesn't move freely anymore, that is after installing. It did prior to tightening the bolt down. To make the ball inside the heim joint move, you have to stick something like a screwdriver through it and pry it in the direction you want to move it. I didn't crank down on it very hard though, when tightening.
 
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The ball inside the socket should move very easily, if you are having to turn it with a screwdriver into position I would have to say that it is no good. It should move freely with very, very little effort.
 
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The ball inside the socket should move very easily, if you are having to turn it with a screwdriver into position I would have to say that it is no good. It should move freely with very, very little effort.
Thanks. I'll get a couple more of them and try it again.
 
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Was there any offset in the original likage Vs the new one? If so and the new one is straight you may either have the wrong linkage for your bike or you may have to use some washers as a spacer to get it to line up proberly, but that shouldnt have to be done in most cases.
 
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But like I said before I think the heim joint is shot.
 
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Originally Posted by Matrix
Was there any offset in the original likage Vs the new one? If so and the new one is straight you may either have the wrong linkage for your bike or you may have to use some washers as a spacer to get it to line up proberly, but that shouldnt have to be done in most cases.
Yes,there is some offset in this linkage vs. the original -but it's not a lot. It's not anymore than what I've seen in pictures posted on this forum. The heim joints don't seem to be at a severe angle. But, I'll use some washers as spacers to get it back straighter on the next go around.
 
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