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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
On your O2 sensor you can splice the wires however you cannot solder them
I'm a solder kinda guy and traditionally use solder and heatshrink for all electrical connections. So what's the best way to splice the wires together that would make it secure? Butt connector?
 
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 12:34 PM
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I finally decided to set all a/f at 13/1 and just use the WB sensors to tune with as I was jumping back and forth in VE changes at 2200 to 3000 rpm and 40 to 60 mpa. I want to get the area where I cruise the most tuned 1st along with the idle and worry about wide open when I can get on a dyno.
So was the "jumping back and forth" happening when you were tuning with the NB senors? Could you describe what's happening in more detail?

I'd like to know if everyone is having good results homing in on a tune using the WB sensors and the LT. Surely someone besides Dennis and I are tuning with the AT-100 Pro.
 
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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I'm a solder kinda guy and traditionally use solder and heatshrink for all electrical connections. So what's the best way to splice the wires together that would make it secure? Butt connector?
I would use butt connectors and heatshrink, I have has to do this a few times here
 
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There is a new version of WinPV and new firmware for the PV available this morning. Don't know all that is in it yet. You should be sure to update all of them as they work together.

WinPV version 1.0.44.914
Firmware version 1.0.6-904
Log Tuner 1.0.13
 

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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by iclick
So was the "jumping back and forth" happening when you were tuning with the NB senors? Could you describe what's happening in more detail?

I'd like to know if everyone is having good results homing in on a tune using the WB sensors and the LT. Surely someone besides Dennis and I are tuning with the AT-100 Pro.
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I will tell you that I have gone back and forth between the stock O2 sensors and tuning with the WB senors several times. I even tuned with the WB sensors then tuned with the O2 sensors on top of that for the cruise range. I have found that the stock O2 sensors seem to be affected more by external variables like temp. The VE table values seem to "bounce" a little more on tuning runs. The WB runs have some variation but seem more stable, at least on my runs that is. The stock O2 sensors provide a good tune but I lean towards the AT WB sensors. Plus you can tune a bigger range with the WB sensors as you know.

What I have found that seems to work best for me is tune with the WB sensors and "finalize" the tune. Then I load that calibration, re-install the stock O2 sensors and let them work in the closed-loop area of the calibration. Lately I have taken a tune finalized as above and taken it out of closed by reducing the AFR to 14.1 in the cruise range. It has been in the upper 90s to 100 here for the last several weeks and that changes seems to help my engine temps.

I prefer the AT tuning with WB sensors but the stock tuning works too.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JustDennis
There is a new version of WinPV and new firmware for the PV available this morning. Don't know all that is in it yet. You should be sure to update all of them as they work together.

WinPV version 1.0.44.914
Firmware version 1.0.6-904
Log Tuner 1.0.13
I downloaded this update this morning. One thing I saw was that the new firmware includes the trip page discussed earlier. It shows Trip A and Trip B mileage and MPG.

Now I need to decide if I want to mount the unit on my bike so I can was the gas mileage...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2011 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by iclick
I'm a solder kinda guy and traditionally use solder and heatshrink for all electrical connections. So what's the best way to splice the wires together that would make it secure? Butt connector?
Iclick,

I have an electrical background and personally despise butt connectors, I never use them. I would strip the two wires back and use a lineman's joint. Solder and then cover with heat shrink. If the splice is open to the elements, you can get heat shrink that will seal water tight. Another option would be to install a quick disconnect connector that is weather tight, like the end of the PV cable that plugs into the bike. I hope this helps.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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Behold, LT v1.0.14 is out.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2011 | 08:30 AM
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DynoJet has added a News section that gives you some good information. You can find it here http://www.dynojet.com/powervision/p...sion-news.aspx

Particularly interesting is the new features listed. Some of them have been requested here. I really like the change indicator and am testing the exit PC link mode. I really think that will be helpful. To exit PC link mode, click on the Powervision dropdown, select Diagnostic/Test Function then select Exit PC Link mode

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"Many new features are now available for your Power Vision. Please use the Update Client to acquire the latest software, firmware, and tune database. Some of the new features include:

Fuel Mileage Trip Center – allows you to correct Distance, Fuel Used, and MPG channels to yield accurate MPG readings.
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