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Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel InjectionNeed advice on ignition issues? Questions about a tuner? Have questions about a EFI calibration or Fuel Injection? Tips on Engine Diagnostics, how to get codes, and what they mean. Find your answers here.
You can find one just about anywhere google "ram mounts" and or "Tech mounts" on line you will see motorcycle mounts. Its a standard "Amps hole pattern" I made mine out of bearing split collar and a piece of scrap metal at work. But I am going to change to this set up. Scroll down towards bottom of page you will see tech mount and quick release visor. http://www.dynojet.com/Powervision/p...cessories.aspx
I have been wanting something that I can more easily remove from bike so thats what I am looking at.
It is only the value for 2500 rpm. Example, if you have 14.6 (closed loop) at 2500 and 14.3 at 2750 the bike will not be in closed loop at 2501. A quick test is to leave the afr table in open loop above 2500 and collect some some data. You should see no ve corrections above 2500. This only applies if you are using the narrow bands. Looking at the timing table data just makes the interpolation easier to see. If you have 32 at 2500 and 36 at 2750 you will see 34 at 2625, 33 at 2562. The reference to the CDE adjustments is that the ve tables also interpolate between cells. The closer the values in the cells the more accurate the interpolated value.
One important aspect to understand is if you turn off closed loop for a given area and the surrounding cells are closed loop, even though the integrator is switched off (short term fuel adjustment) the open loop area will still be affected by adaptive control (AFV/AFF) which block learns over a cluster of related cells. Essentially, what is learned in closed loop is applied to an area of open loop. One way you could get around this would be to get your calibration sorted and when finished leave adaptive control turned off, it would still be closed loop with the integrator but would not store adaptive trims. This is how nearly all other motorcycle EFI systems operate.
This TechMount available from FuelMoto is a bit spendy, but it works slick as hell.
I have not found a need for a visor yet, with the angle adjusted correctly the only time seeing the PV screen is an issue is when the sun is low and directly behind you, in which case the visor wouldn't work anyway.
I purchased a CVO Breakout about a month ago and I want the best tune possible without going to the shop to pay dyno guy a bunch of $$, if a unit I can put in/use will do the job just as well (current set up will be entirely stock with some Rush 2" baffle slip ons, but will want to get Vance and Hines 2 into 1 big radius at some point). But that is the question of course. I had a PCV on my 05 Deluxe for 3 years and loved it-used the map put in by Fuel Moto and it seemed to run great (Jamie at Fuel Moto did say that the PCV unit probably wouldn't work for my Breakout due to the small amount of space under the seat, but my local Indy guy said he has installed many of them behind the rear fender). I like the idea of having a device that will allow me to adjust settings as I mod the bike. That being said, I don't understand anything about the "settings"- all those tables and values look like Japanese to me, I suppose I could learn, but I really don't want to if I don't have to. I just want a pre-made map installed and ride. So, my question is basically should I go with a Power Vision, PCV, or something else, trying to get the most bang for the buck at the same time? I do like the ability to gain an extra license to tune another bike- wouldn't mind adjusting my wife's just a bit (has screaming eagle slip ons and everything else is stock). Looking for any recommendations. Thanks.
I purchased a CVO Breakout about a month ago and I want the best tune possible without going to the shop to pay dyno guy a bunch of $$, if a unit I can put in/use will do the job just as well (current set up will be entirely stock with some Rush 2" baffle slip ons, but will want to get Vance and Hines 2 into 1 big radius at some point). But that is the question of course. I had a PCV on my 05 Deluxe for 3 years and loved it-used the map put in by Fuel Moto and it seemed to run great (Jamie at Fuel Moto did say that the PCV unit probably wouldn't work for my Breakout due to the small amount of space under the seat, but my local Indy guy said he has installed many of them behind the rear fender). I like the idea of having a device that will allow me to adjust settings as I mod the bike. That being said, I don't understand anything about the "settings"- all those tables and values look like Japanese to me, I suppose I could learn, but I really don't want to if I don't have to. I just want a pre-made map installed and ride. So, my question is basically should I go with a Power Vision, PCV, or something else, trying to get the most bang for the buck at the same time? I do like the ability to gain an extra license to tune another bike- wouldn't mind adjusting my wife's just a bit (has screaming eagle slip ons and everything else is stock). Looking for any recommendations. Thanks.
Get the PV, Jamie can load you a map for your setup that will be real close. The PV is very user friendly and easy to use, any questions just post them here. With the extra license Jamie can get you a map for your wife's bike also. I think you will find that the PV is not that intimidating after you use it a couple of times.
I have read many post here... I may have just overlooked what Im looking for. Can someone explain how to setup the gauges? I would like to view engine temp, rpm, speed, gear indicator or any of the ones you all suggest to view. Is there a step by step instructions somewhere? Thanks for any help.
interpolation is between fixed values. at 2500 if you have say 14.6 then that is what it is. if at 2250 you have 13.6 the difference of 1.0 is stepped (interpolated) between the two vertically. of course it goes beyond that because the Map is also stepped ie: 20 to 30 another change of 10.
if at 2500, 20 map AFR is 14 and 2500, 30 map is 15.0 another adjustment. At 2500 & map 25, AFR would be 14.5 for instance.
at 2350 rpm, 22.56 map, AFR would be ...... ? so you set 3000 at closed say 14.6 and the next line 3500? to 14 it will interpolate 0.6 and you could still be closed loop at 3200 at 14.4~
Not sure I'm following you. I can see the VE table's interpolating but why would an AFR table interpolate? The AFR should be exactly as we put in the cell ( based on how close the VE's are). The way I understand it the interpolation happens in the VE tables to come up with the AFR I'm requesting. If the AFR tables are interpolating, as you say, what is being interpolated to determine?
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