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Jul 19, 2013 | 11:44 AM

#5011

stailjim61

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From: USA

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontiac69

WHen i look at my tune and the original tune from harley this table is the same. I guess autotune doesnt make changes here.
I dont know how to attatch a pic of that table but this is what i got:

c =====Multiplier
-16 ====1.99
0 =====1.95
16===== 1.89
32===== 1.75
48===== 1.48
64 =====1.25
80======1.13
96====== 1.06
112 ====1.03
128==== 1.00
144==== 1.00
160 ====1.00

No, AT won't adjust your decel table. YOU do that, if needed, after the VE's are 100% dialed in.

Is it popping once or a few times between shifts?

Or, is it multiple pops as you're decelerating?

If it just popping once as you shift add a little fuel in the decel table at the temps you notice the pop.

If it's a series of pops as you're slowing down, with throttle closed, then you need to take it out of closed loop in the 20 or 0 column and add some fuel. Usually adding a little fuel in the 2000 - 4000 RPM cells will knock down the fire causing the pops. Note: DE may or may not cure the pops depending on how severe. You can try it and see if it does. If it doesn't, then richen it up in open loop.

If you're still in closed loop in the left column (from AT setup) that's probably why it's popping. Or, VE's aren't calibrated in that area. Make sure you're catching as many cells to the left as you can. Should be able to get down to 2500 by going down steep hills with throttle closed.

Try a little additional timing in the left column and see if it gets better. Then add a little fuel.

I wouldn't worry about popping until you have your VE's calibrated though. Get the VE's done...then tweak the little issues. You will hear some popping during your AT runs until you have the VE's finished. So don't worry about popping until VE's are completely calibrated.

Jul 19, 2013 | 02:19 PM

#5012

Boston Chris

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From: Massachusetts

Quote:

Originally Posted by antimo

The max spark is set on 10 as per PV guide;when I said that I don't have spark on PV I mean the sentente Learned spark: 0 etc is gone there are only VE
Sorry for my English

Ok well one of two things then. When you are auto tuning, the powervision unit will only remove timing. Not add. So it may be that it does not need to retard timing any further. You can run a log and look at it after running the bike and see if there is any knock retard events. You might not have any. The conditions might just be right for the way you ride and the air temps and so on. You might be worried about nothing.

Was it pulling timing in other auto tuning sessions you did? Or is this one the only one it is no longer pulling timing? How is the bike running? If it is not bad it might be done pulling timing. But try running some logs and look for knock retard events.

Jul 19, 2013 | 02:22 PM

#5013

Boston Chris

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From: Massachusetts

Quote:

Originally Posted by pontiac69

Yup...looks like mine too. I did not know that was the factory settings. So Fuelmotos map they sent me did not alter that for me either. i have a few gurgles with mine. My 20kpa ( decel area like Jim said ) is at 13.8 to 1. The few gurgles i have i was planning on trying to knock out buy using the decel table.

Jul 19, 2013 | 02:35 PM

#5014

antimo

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From: Italy

Power Vision Information Thread-my-screen.jpg

Do you see something strange?
My learned spark is gone

Jul 19, 2013 | 02:44 PM

#5015

shooter5074

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From: Western Illinois, land of bad roads, and corrupt politicians

Quote:

Originally Posted by antimo

Attachment 325106
Do you see something strange?
My learned spark is gone

That looks like mine, just before I export the file. That's a narrow band auto tune, so it looks normal to me.

Last edited by shooter5074; Jul 19, 2013 at 02:49 PM.

Jul 19, 2013 | 05:15 PM

#5016

Relaxed Rider

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From: Georgia

This is probably a dumb question especially since I have already installed the Power Vision on my 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited. Is this going to void my warranty at the dealer? Or is it like a car reinstall original flash and good to go to dealer?
Thanks in Advance for the info.

Jul 19, 2013 | 08:11 PM

#5017

Crazylegs

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Relaxed Rider

I was just at my dealer today in service and the the service manager and one of the guys were checking it out and were very curious about it and asked me how I liked it. No mention of any warranty issues.

Jul 19, 2013 | 08:59 PM

#5018

CanuckSlim

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From: Calgary, Canada

My dealer knows I have the PV as well.

Any warranty denial would have to prove that the PV caused whatever issue you are claiming warranty on. They can't just blanket deny warranty.

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Jul 20, 2013 | 08:14 AM

#5019

SquidHead

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From: The Whale's Vagina

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relaxed Rider

The HD Tech at my local dealer uses a PV on his bike and recommends them to customers. I've already had a warranty repair done by him, no issues.

Jul 20, 2013 | 09:30 PM

#5020

tdkkart

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Joined: Aug 2011

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From: East Iowa

Copy/Paste VE tables??

I'm trying to copy and paste VE tables from one file to another, I can do the front one, highlight all cells, hit "copy" in the tool bar, switch files then highlight the front table again and hit paste, works fine. When I do the same with the rear one it changes the front one to something unrelated to any file I'm working with. I've tried it several ways, using the active and compare files, opening the program twice and switching between windows, opening the file, copying, close the program, re-open it and the new file, all do the same thing.
If I do the rear one first, it will change that one when I copy/paste the front one.
Anyone seen this??

Also, why can't I print the VE charts?? All my "print" buttons and drop downs are grayed out.

I have the latest and greatest software and firmware versions.

Last edited by tdkkart; Jul 20, 2013 at 09:32 PM.