Power Vision Information Thread
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,368
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From: Australia
Hi,
I don't believe I will do a lot of tuning with the unit but like the convenience of how it connects and what it can do in the future
My bike so far I put slip ons at 3000km, then xieds at 6000kms, then air intake at 13500kms, running fine, do a lot of freeway, country roads cruising,
Now at 24000kms I just put full V&h straight shots on, I will try and locate a "seller/tuner" here in Aus that can preload map otherwise I check out Dynojet direct
Thanks
Mirrmu
I don't believe I will do a lot of tuning with the unit but like the convenience of how it connects and what it can do in the future
My bike so far I put slip ons at 3000km, then xieds at 6000kms, then air intake at 13500kms, running fine, do a lot of freeway, country roads cruising,
Now at 24000kms I just put full V&h straight shots on, I will try and locate a "seller/tuner" here in Aus that can preload map otherwise I check out Dynojet direct
Thanks
Mirrmu
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
From: USA
Mirrmu... it is always better to have a starter cal that is good and close to any modifications you have made. Doesnt matter if you are using basic auto tune or wide band auto tune a starter map will just make the tuning process faster. You dont even need a starter map if you cant get one but dyno jet will provide one for you if needed. With the powervision if you cant get a starter map from anyone you can either use one that is close to what you have ( say you have reinhart exaust but no starter cal for them you can use one for vance n hines ) or you could use the stock map that is loaded in your ECM already and it will adjust as you run some tuning runs.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
From: USA
Hi,
I don't believe I will do a lot of tuning with the unit but like the convenience of how it connects and what it can do in the future
My bike so far I put slip ons at 3000km, then xieds at 6000kms, then air intake at 13500kms, running fine, do a lot of freeway, country roads cruising,
Now at 24000kms I just put full V&h straight shots on, I will try and locate a "seller/tuner" here in Aus that can preload map otherwise I check out Dynojet direct
Thanks
Mirrmu
I don't believe I will do a lot of tuning with the unit but like the convenience of how it connects and what it can do in the future
My bike so far I put slip ons at 3000km, then xieds at 6000kms, then air intake at 13500kms, running fine, do a lot of freeway, country roads cruising,
Now at 24000kms I just put full V&h straight shots on, I will try and locate a "seller/tuner" here in Aus that can preload map otherwise I check out Dynojet direct
Thanks
Mirrmu
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,430
Likes: 55
From: Florida
Still baffeled by logs
Hi all
I'm reasonably satisfied with my tune so far. I keep my PV mounted on the bars monitoring CHT,MPG,etc.. On longer rides I'll log data to see if there's any Knock.I have very few small random events 0.5-2 deg.So since Im finally settled on my spark tables, I thought I'd run AT one more time and check my VE's against the latest spark tables.OK, heres the thing that still bamboozles me, The VE's were good 1-2% and a couple3%s,Thats all good, BUT the log I created while ATing showed Knock Events from 0.5 all the way to 8 deg.It may be even higher but thats the limit set.Not just a few but more than 1,500 out of about 15K lines of data!Thats over 10% of that ride. Ive seen this and posted about it before and couldn't understand how this could be,When AT retards 4 deg. from the start.Has anyone else compared AT logs to regular data logs and seen the same results?Could it be the leaner AFR AT runs? I'm not going to pull any more spark because with that last AT run I could feel that extra 4deg starting to get kinda sluggish, or flat through the power band.
tired of chasing my tail
I'm reasonably satisfied with my tune so far. I keep my PV mounted on the bars monitoring CHT,MPG,etc.. On longer rides I'll log data to see if there's any Knock.I have very few small random events 0.5-2 deg.So since Im finally settled on my spark tables, I thought I'd run AT one more time and check my VE's against the latest spark tables.OK, heres the thing that still bamboozles me, The VE's were good 1-2% and a couple3%s,Thats all good, BUT the log I created while ATing showed Knock Events from 0.5 all the way to 8 deg.It may be even higher but thats the limit set.Not just a few but more than 1,500 out of about 15K lines of data!Thats over 10% of that ride. Ive seen this and posted about it before and couldn't understand how this could be,When AT retards 4 deg. from the start.Has anyone else compared AT logs to regular data logs and seen the same results?Could it be the leaner AFR AT runs? I'm not going to pull any more spark because with that last AT run I could feel that extra 4deg starting to get kinda sluggish, or flat through the power band.
tired of chasing my tail
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 146
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
Hi all
I'm reasonably satisfied with my tune so far. I keep my PV mounted on the bars monitoring CHT,MPG,etc.. On longer rides I'll log data to see if there's any Knock.I have very few small random events 0.5-2 deg.So since Im finally settled on my spark tables, I thought I'd run AT one more time and check my VE's against the latest spark tables.OK, heres the thing that still bamboozles me, The VE's were good 1-2% and a couple3%s,Thats all good, BUT the log I created while ATing showed Knock Events from 0.5 all the way to 8 deg.It may be even higher but thats the limit set.Not just a few but more than 1,500 out of about 15K lines of data!Thats over 10% of that ride. Ive seen this and posted about it before and couldn't understand how this could be,When AT retards 4 deg. from the start.Has anyone else compared AT logs to regular data logs and seen the same results?Could it be the leaner AFR AT runs? I'm not going to pull any more spark because with that last AT run I could feel that extra 4deg starting to get kinda sluggish, or flat through the power band.
tired of chasing my tail
I'm reasonably satisfied with my tune so far. I keep my PV mounted on the bars monitoring CHT,MPG,etc.. On longer rides I'll log data to see if there's any Knock.I have very few small random events 0.5-2 deg.So since Im finally settled on my spark tables, I thought I'd run AT one more time and check my VE's against the latest spark tables.OK, heres the thing that still bamboozles me, The VE's were good 1-2% and a couple3%s,Thats all good, BUT the log I created while ATing showed Knock Events from 0.5 all the way to 8 deg.It may be even higher but thats the limit set.Not just a few but more than 1,500 out of about 15K lines of data!Thats over 10% of that ride. Ive seen this and posted about it before and couldn't understand how this could be,When AT retards 4 deg. from the start.Has anyone else compared AT logs to regular data logs and seen the same results?Could it be the leaner AFR AT runs? I'm not going to pull any more spark because with that last AT run I could feel that extra 4deg starting to get kinda sluggish, or flat through the power band.
tired of chasing my tailThe powervision is starting to make me wonder again about bugs. i would say if you are not getting any ping your probably ok. Your log with the small anout of spark retard is probably more accurate that the log with 1500 events. I cant begin to list the problems that i think the powervision has.Everytime i talk with dynojet it seems like they wont give you a straight answer to some questions.I also noticed there is another firmware update. i have not downloaded it because there is no read me file to say what the update has fixed or changed. if your happy with the way your bike is running ride and enjoy. dont sweat the small stuff.
Road Warrior
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 1,430
Likes: 55
From: Florida
Yes, I posted my experiences with AT logs Vs Data logs in this thread and my reply from Jamie at FM. posts# 4636,4642,4654,4749. Cover most of it.I should of just export,flashed,the small VE changes. I had let it go as just a quirk of ATing and the settings it changes,Plus while in AT mode I'm usually pushing it well beyond my normal riding habits. Winding it up to 5500-6000 rpm in as many gears as traffic and road conditions permit. and lugging through the gears as well.trying to fill the entire green page with red cells.But I logged and peeked,(ocd) lol. So I believe the data logs are the ones I should work with. Never tried the max spark learn 10 ,VE-0 tip at the end of the manual. who knows wth I'd end up with lol.Was just wondering if anyone else compared Logs and had similar results.
Banned
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 134
Likes: 2
From: Gainesville, Fl
Smokey....was it you that emailed some logs to jamie and he looked them over about this last time? if it was what was the outcome?
The powervision is starting to make me wonder again about bugs. i would say if you are not getting any ping your probably ok. Your log with the small anout of spark retard is probably more accurate that the log with 1500 events. I cant begin to list the problems that i think the powervision has.Everytime i talk with dynojet it seems like they wont give you a straight answer to some questions.I also noticed there is another firmware update. i have not downloaded it because there is no read me file to say what the update has fixed or changed. if your happy with the way your bike is running ride and enjoy. dont sweat the small stuff.
The powervision is starting to make me wonder again about bugs. i would say if you are not getting any ping your probably ok. Your log with the small anout of spark retard is probably more accurate that the log with 1500 events. I cant begin to list the problems that i think the powervision has.Everytime i talk with dynojet it seems like they wont give you a straight answer to some questions.I also noticed there is another firmware update. i have not downloaded it because there is no read me file to say what the update has fixed or changed. if your happy with the way your bike is running ride and enjoy. dont sweat the small stuff.
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Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
From: USA
Smokey....was it you that emailed some logs to jamie and he looked them over about this last time? if it was what was the outcome?
The powervision is starting to make me wonder again about bugs. i would say if you are not getting any ping your probably ok. Your log with the small anout of spark retard is probably more accurate that the log with 1500 events. I cant begin to list the problems that i think the powervision has.Everytime i talk with dynojet it seems like they wont give you a straight answer to some questions.I also noticed there is another firmware update. i have not downloaded it because there is no read me file to say what the update has fixed or changed. if your happy with the way your bike is running ride and enjoy. dont sweat the small stuff.
The powervision is starting to make me wonder again about bugs. i would say if you are not getting any ping your probably ok. Your log with the small anout of spark retard is probably more accurate that the log with 1500 events. I cant begin to list the problems that i think the powervision has.Everytime i talk with dynojet it seems like they wont give you a straight answer to some questions.I also noticed there is another firmware update. i have not downloaded it because there is no read me file to say what the update has fixed or changed. if your happy with the way your bike is running ride and enjoy. dont sweat the small stuff.
Last edited by stailjim61; Jul 28, 2013 at 01:23 PM.
Road Captain
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
From: USA
Yes, I posted my experiences with AT logs Vs Data logs in this thread and my reply from Jamie at FM. posts# 4636,4642,4654,4749. Cover most of it.I should of just export,flashed,the small VE changes. I had let it go as just a quirk of ATing and the settings it changes,Plus while in AT mode I'm usually pushing it well beyond my normal riding habits. Winding it up to 5500-6000 rpm in as many gears as traffic and road conditions permit. and lugging through the gears as well.trying to fill the entire green page with red cells.But I logged and peeked,(ocd) lol. So I believe the data logs are the ones I should work with. Never tried the max spark learn 10 ,VE-0 tip at the end of the manual. who knows wth I'd end up with lol.Was just wondering if anyone else compared Logs and had similar results.