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Jan 13, 2016 | 11:34 PM

#7901

ducatidesmo

Cruiser

Joined: Jun 2012

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From: Washington

Hey all,

Just got my target tune it, test ran it, runs GRRREEEAT, now I wanted to find out how yall were routing the wires for the front 02 sensor on a 2009 up touring bike. I have a 15 limited and that connector is HUGE... I remember on my 09 the wiring was at the truss between the two down-tubes but ... well

I'll see what folks are doing, any suggestions, or images, would be greatly appreciated

Thanks

-D

Last edited by ducatidesmo; Jan 13, 2016 at 11:40 PM.

Jan 14, 2016 | 06:49 AM

#7902

scooterbum46

Tourer

Joined: Apr 2012

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From: Michigan/Florida

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducatidesmo

Routed under the tank. I looked at routing along the downtube and underneath, too many places it could get against a hot pipe..

Jan 14, 2016 | 10:40 AM

#7903

LA_Dog

Outstanding HDF Member

Joined: Jun 2014

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From: 90210

Quote:

Originally Posted by whittlebeast

I never turn off AE and DE for any tuning. It is there to stablize the AFR on transitions. It is really easy to filter out when looking at the data if you want.

Andy

OK- I have to respectfully disagree on that, DE and AE will get in the way of proper tuning. I just got some info from DJ this morning, enabling the TT AT session automatically disables AE / DE functions- As I suspected it might, which is a good thing. It probably also disables PE and CTS functions but that's just a guess. After the auto tuning is done you'd typically go back and tune AE / DE as needed, manually in the tables. Not much different in general process than the older days of carb tuning.

Of note- I was also told it plain does not matter what the AFR target vales are set to for TT AT. I was told not to worry about setting any specific values for TT AT, use AFR map as is and it will tune VEs to meet those target values.

Now all I need is an add on that auto-tunes the spark advance tables to best MBT at every given AFR and load. hah!

Last edited by LA_Dog; Jan 14, 2016 at 10:42 AM.

Jan 14, 2016 | 01:46 PM

#7904

Softail65

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Joined: Oct 2014

Posts: 20

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From: California

Idle-Speed & Power Vision

I have installed in my 2015 Fatbob the Power Vision 2. But the idle speed did not go below 800.

I have add. this Idle Control #13 installed. He works great with the Power Vision Together. Now the engine is running at 600-650 RPM

http://www.american-motors-usa.com/t...tail-2006-2015

also available for Harley Sportster (part#12)
http://www.american-motors-usa.com/t...ftail-und-dyna

I've sent an email to Mike from American Motors USA, he is very nice and helpful.

The Power Vision works well.

Jan 14, 2016 | 03:10 PM

#7905

LA_Dog

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From: 90210

A $100+ screw adjuster that replaces the IAC? Hmm..

It's not a good idea to run your Twin Cam idle that low with the stock oiling system. 900 is bare minimum and I'd keep it at least 925. I'd be really suspicious of any product that has a web page with such bad English. I couldn't understand half of what was written.

Nor is this device a "gas saver" as that page claims. Economy is controlled by VE / AFR targets, and your right wrist.

If you want an ol' skool Harley sounding idle, get an Evo or Knuck and cam it. TC's are a different motor.

Jan 14, 2016 | 04:28 PM

#7906

Softail65

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From: California

That's no problem, I have at 600 RPM 10 psi oil pressure and 13,4 volt

Jan 14, 2016 | 06:09 PM

#7907

LA_Dog

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From: 90210

You won't have 10psi at 220+ degrees ET idling in summer traffic. Not worth the risk IMO, and I don't run my Evo motor that low either (which has a kick *** S&S HVHP oil pump, baisley spring, etc). This has been gone over many times in many forums / threads, and any experienced engine builder worth their salt will tell you NO.

It's all fine and dandy until you scuff a piston or score a bearing journal. But hey it's your bike.

Jan 14, 2016 | 06:29 PM

#7908

ducatidesmo

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Joined: Jun 2012

Posts: 155

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From: Washington

Quote:

Originally Posted by scooterbum46

Routed under the tank. I looked at routing along the downtube and underneath, too many places it could get against a hot pipe..

Where did you end up placing that HUGE connector? do you have any images? I had it intially routed in the wires bundle but if there is something better, I'm all for it.

Thanks!