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Great question. I also would like to know how to erase a tune from one of the 6 slots. I would also like to know how to move a tune from 1 slot to another. I-Click - have you figured out how to do this yet? Anyone else??
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To clear the entire list as well as returning everything on the PV back to the factory defaults, you can select "PV firmware recovery" in the Update Client on your computer (Start > Programs > Power Vision). This will erase every log, tune, gauge and other settings from the PV, so if you do it make sure you've backed everything up to your computer (logs, tunes, etc.). You should be doing that anyway as a standard practice, but if you don't and do the firmware recovery they are lost forever!
This is not an elegant solution to such a simple task and DJ needs to address this. I emailed DJ a while back about an error in their manual and got a reply from their engineering dept., so I'll email the same guy again about this request as well as one more. I would like for the PV to return to the same screen it left when last powered down. For most of us that will be one of the gauge displays, and it makes no sense to have to hit two buttons to get to that point every time you start the bike.
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You can overwrite tunes, like put a new tune in Slot 3 when it is already filled, which will replace what's there--but you can't simply delete one tune from one slot or move them around.
To clear the entire list as well as returning everything on the PV back to the factory defaults, you can select "PV firmware recovery" in the Update Client on your computer (Start > Programs > Power Vision). This will erase every log, tune, gauge and other settings from the PV, so if you do it make sure you've backed everything up to your computer (logs, tunes, etc.). You should be doing that anyway as a standard practice, but if you don't and do the firmware recovery they are lost forever!
This is not an elegant solution to such a simple task and DJ needs to address this. I emailed DJ a while back about an error in their manual and got a reply from their engineering dept., so I'll email the same guy again about this request as well as one more. I would like for the PV to return to the same screen it left when last powered down. For most of us that will be one of the gauge displays, and it makes no sense to have to hit two buttons to get to that point every time you start the bike.
To clear the entire list as well as returning everything on the PV back to the factory defaults, you can select "PV firmware recovery" in the Update Client on your computer (Start > Programs > Power Vision). This will erase every log, tune, gauge and other settings from the PV, so if you do it make sure you've backed everything up to your computer (logs, tunes, etc.). You should be doing that anyway as a standard practice, but if you don't and do the firmware recovery they are lost forever!
This is not an elegant solution to such a simple task and DJ needs to address this. I emailed DJ a while back about an error in their manual and got a reply from their engineering dept., so I'll email the same guy again about this request as well as one more. I would like for the PV to return to the same screen it left when last powered down. For most of us that will be one of the gauge displays, and it makes no sense to have to hit two buttons to get to that point every time you start the bike.
On a separate subject, am I correct in assuming you can only use the screen son the PV when it's attached to the bike and the bike is powered up? Is there anyway to access the functional screens when the unit is powered by the laptop connection?
Lastly, what purpose does the physical red button on the front of the unit do?
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On a separate subject, am I correct in assuming you can only use the screen son the PV when it's attached to the bike and the bike is powered up? Is there anyway to access the functional screens when the unit is powered by the laptop connection?
Lastly, what purpose does the physical red button on the front of the unit do?
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Not that I know of. When connected to the computer via USB you'll see a message on the screen that it is in "computer mode" (or similar wording) and it will stay in that mode until you disconnect and turn on the ignition. I don't think it can interact with both the ECM and computer at the same time.
I also realized when I went into any tune to "edit" I seem to have only 2 parameters available for editing...RPM Limit and RPM adder(going from memory?). Why can't I see all of the other parameters associated with the tune? Is there some setting I need to adjust through WinPV or directly on the PV?
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I wasn't looking to use the screen functions when the unit was connected to both the laptop and the computer. I was actually trying to see if there was a way to use the PV inside the house when it was off the bike but powered by the laptop. Would have been nice to work with the unit when it was off the bike. Since there's no battery the only way to power the unit is when it's attached to the laptop. Might be a nice simple feature if you're sending recommendations to the development team.
I use my desktop for most editing, so I usually just do the C: > D: and R: copy, then transfer the edited file on R: to the PV and later flash it to the ECM.
I also realized when I went into any tune to "edit" I seem to have only 2 parameters available for editing...RPM Limit and RPM adder(going from memory?). Why can't I see all of the other parameters associated with the tune? Is there some setting I need to adjust through WinPV or directly on the PV?
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I'm not sure I'm following you. Do you just want to view the tunes on your desktop computer so you can edit them there? If so, the way I do it is just have the tunes saved on the laptop, then copy them to the desktop using the network. My laptop is connected to the internet and LAN (local area network) via wifi, so files can be copied from one to the other. I created two batch files on the desktop with icons that will move tunes, logs, etc. from the laptop (R:\Program Files\Power Vision) to both the corresponding WinPV folder (C:\Program Files\Power Vision) and backup drive ( D: ) on my desktop. A second icon does the opposite ( C: to D: and R: ). Instead of using batch files you can also just copy the files that you change manually via wifi or a thumbdrive.
I use my desktop for most editing, so I usually just do the C: > D: and R: copy, then transfer the edited file on R: to the PV and later flash it to the ECM.
You probably have it set to "basic" mode. Go to Setup > Options and change the User Level to "Pro". That'll open up many more tables for you to edit. Be careful, though, as changing some of these can give unpredictable results. Make sure everything from the stock tune to every generation of edited tunes is saved on your computer(s). I have all files saved in four different places: Laptop, desktop, desktop backup drive, and a backup of the desktop backup drive. I'm a believer in backups, obviously, and overkill that practice.
I use my desktop for most editing, so I usually just do the C: > D: and R: copy, then transfer the edited file on R: to the PV and later flash it to the ECM.
You probably have it set to "basic" mode. Go to Setup > Options and change the User Level to "Pro". That'll open up many more tables for you to edit. Be careful, though, as changing some of these can give unpredictable results. Make sure everything from the stock tune to every generation of edited tunes is saved on your computer(s). I have all files saved in four different places: Laptop, desktop, desktop backup drive, and a backup of the desktop backup drive. I'm a believer in backups, obviously, and overkill that practice.
I'm not referring to editing while looking at a tune in WINPV on the laptop, I'm referring to the editing capabilities of a tune while viewing it directly on the PV. When you go to the tune list and then select a file, you can then choose "Edit". There's a box list of parameters that's displayed however for all my tunes I have only 2 of the many parameters available to edit on the PV.
Shouldn't the list be far more extensive than making idle and RPM adjustments? My understanding was that the PV would enable VE, Spark Advance, AFR and other adjustments without having to connect my laptop. Is there a setting I need to change in order to view a more extensive list of tune parameters for adjustment on the PV without the need for a laptop?
Shouldn't the list be far more extensive than making idle and RPM adjustments? My understanding was that the PV would enable VE, Spark Advance, AFR and other adjustments without having to connect my laptop. Is there a setting I need to change in order to view a more extensive list of tune parameters for adjustment on the PV without the need for a laptop?
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Yes, you are currently limited on the calibration parameters you can adjust from the PV display, they have done this for the initial product rollout to prevent users from unintentionally adjusting certain parameters on the display. As the Dynojet dealers and tuners get fully up to speed on Power Vision there will be more tuning options from the display. The WinPv software on the other hand give you full access to all of the tuning tables and parameters.
that the PV would be so limited at launch to the 2 rather insignificant parameters I currently see in edit mode. Can you please confirm what the limited parameters are that are available for tuning directly through the PV (ie without need for WinPV). Thanks
Jamie, can you confirm what parameters the PV is limited to tuning directly without having to use a laptop and WinPV? I have to say I'm somewhat surprised
that the PV would be so limited at launch to the 2 rather insignificant parameters I currently see in edit mode. Can you please confirm what the limited parameters are that are available for tuning directly through the PV (ie without need for WinPV). Thanks
that the PV would be so limited at launch to the 2 rather insignificant parameters I currently see in edit mode. Can you please confirm what the limited parameters are that are available for tuning directly through the PV (ie without need for WinPV). Thanks