103 0r 110
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RE: 103 0r 110
ORIGINAL: Road Hawg
I am doing the HQ 103 the difference between the 103 and 107 wasn't enough for the $$$.. (HQ 103ST 112hp 125#torque)
I am doing the HQ 103 the difference between the 103 and 107 wasn't enough for the $$$.. (HQ 103ST 112hp 125#torque)
ORIGINAL: karlrockdrain
Dont try and second guess the pro's.
karlrockdrain
Dont try and second guess the pro's.
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RE: 103 0r 110
Glideman if I'm going to do the economy 103 should I leave off the cam? I would like to build off somthing without spending money just to change it out in a year or two. Since I only got 1500 miles on my 08 before the snow hit I kinda wanted to ride it for another year before I do any major mods.
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RE: 103 0r 110
Two caveats: (1) because we are relatively ignorant, we are easy marks for upselling from some vendors, such as larger thottle bodies, roller rockers, etc. that aren't needed with a 103" build; and,(2) we tend to chase dyno numbers which makes us unduly (IMHO) sensitive to minor differences in those numberswhen we should be concerned with the rideability of the package andthe fact that most of us don't have a butt dyno sensitive enough to "feel" +/- 5 hp/tq.
Last point: a 103" motor is like a loaf of bread, a bottle of wine, etc.The$.95 loaf of bread at Kroger is a loaf of bread, but it's not what I'd want tomake a sandwich with; a $2.99 bottle of wine is a bottle of wine, but it's not what I want to drink. Same thing with 103" motors. You can buy cylinders and pistons from HD for under$700 and have it installed at the HD store under an "elbow grease" promotion and you will have a 103" motor when you ride out; but it's not the 103" I would want and it won't be much different than what you rode in on.
Last point: a 103" motor is like a loaf of bread, a bottle of wine, etc.The$.95 loaf of bread at Kroger is a loaf of bread, but it's not what I'd want tomake a sandwich with; a $2.99 bottle of wine is a bottle of wine, but it's not what I want to drink. Same thing with 103" motors. You can buy cylinders and pistons from HD for under$700 and have it installed at the HD store under an "elbow grease" promotion and you will have a 103" motor when you ride out; but it's not the 103" I would want and it won't be much different than what you rode in on.
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RE: 103 0r 110
I have a different set up thatI hear from my builder is a very close to being square and he really likes this! it envolves a 4 3/8 Stroker crank and aset of pistons that require the cases to be bored to accept! the Heads are being sent to HQ and gonna have a set of leinweber cams.
I understand its gonna run quite well! [sm=icon_cheers.gif]
What do you guys think?
I understand its gonna run quite well! [sm=icon_cheers.gif]
What do you guys think?
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RE: 103 0r 110
I've read quite a bit about many of the 110's and their heat problems, etc. It seems like many of the CVO guys have been complaining about them.You might want to check out the CVO pages on this forum to get the low down. I have not heard of many issues with the 103 and I think it's a bit more proven. One thing to consider if you arenot doing the work yourselfis that if you decide to go with your Harley dealer, you can have this covered under the two year base warranty and if you decide to extend the warranty, it will all be covered as well. This is probably the biggest benefit of having the dealer do the work. I am sure however, thatyou can probably find a better tuner than thedealer.Good luck...looking forward to seeing what setup you go with.
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From: Stockbridge, GA (Atlanta)
RE: 103 0r 110
well said---thank you for a simple explaination that most of us non - motorheads can understand
ORIGINAL: Harleypingman
Two caveats: (1) because we are relatively ignorant, we are easy marks for upselling from some vendors, such as larger thottle bodies, roller rockers, etc. that aren't needed with a 103" build; and,(2) we tend to chase dyno numbers which makes us unduly (IMHO) sensitive to minor differences in those numberswhen we should be concerned with the rideability of the package andthe fact that most of us don't have a butt dyno sensitive enough to "feel" +/- 5 hp/tq.
Last point: a 103" motor is like a loaf of bread, a bottle of wine, etc.The$.95 loaf of bread at Kroger is a loaf of bread, but it's not what I'd want tomake a sandwich with; a $2.99 bottle of wine is a bottle of wine, but it's not what I want to drink. Same thing with 103" motors. You can buy cylinders and pistons from HD for under$700 and have it installed at the HD store under an "elbow grease" promotion and you will have a 103" motor when you ride out; but it's not the 103" I would want and it won't be much different than what you rode in on.
Two caveats: (1) because we are relatively ignorant, we are easy marks for upselling from some vendors, such as larger thottle bodies, roller rockers, etc. that aren't needed with a 103" build; and,(2) we tend to chase dyno numbers which makes us unduly (IMHO) sensitive to minor differences in those numberswhen we should be concerned with the rideability of the package andthe fact that most of us don't have a butt dyno sensitive enough to "feel" +/- 5 hp/tq.
Last point: a 103" motor is like a loaf of bread, a bottle of wine, etc.The$.95 loaf of bread at Kroger is a loaf of bread, but it's not what I'd want tomake a sandwich with; a $2.99 bottle of wine is a bottle of wine, but it's not what I want to drink. Same thing with 103" motors. You can buy cylinders and pistons from HD for under$700 and have it installed at the HD store under an "elbow grease" promotion and you will have a 103" motor when you ride out; but it's not the 103" I would want and it won't be much different than what you rode in on.
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