Monkey Bagger Bars with Pics (Install)
Road Captain
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 695
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From: Kingwood, TX
Well, since it has ABS, the line that needs extended goes from the master cylinder to the ABS module which is under the seat, behind the right side cover. There is no "tee" in it, the "tee" that you're seeing is part of the line that goes from the ABS module to the front calipers. I'm not sure exactly what the extension needs to be but 4" will certainly do it and you can always leave any slack inside the fairing. If you install the line and bleed it through the master cylinder you won't need a H-D scan tool to bleed the ABS as you will not introduce any air into the module.
In my opinion you would be a serious glutton for punishment if you tackled trying to shove additional wiring through those bars, unless you enjoy massive amounts of frustration, don't do it.
In my opinion you would be a serious glutton for punishment if you tackled trying to shove additional wiring through those bars, unless you enjoy massive amounts of frustration, don't do it.
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2011
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Ok that all makes sense. I will be going home tonight and reading up on my service manual to put a picture to your words.
I'm going to pass on the heat demons saves some money and I agree to many wires already in there.
I'm going to go to harley and see what type of cables they have in stock might pick some up or just order some magnums online.
Bars should be here Thursday so I'd like to get started and wrapped up before the weather gets really nice.
I'm going to pass on the heat demons saves some money and I agree to many wires already in there.
I'm going to go to harley and see what type of cables they have in stock might pick some up or just order some magnums online.
Bars should be here Thursday so I'd like to get started and wrapped up before the weather gets really nice.
Club Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 887
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From: Spring, Texas
I just finished up installing 13" LA Chopper Prime Apes a couple weeks ago.
It was a lot easier than I expected pulling the wires thru the bars. The splicing and soldering took a little time and swapping out the control housings to chrome one was a little tedious but all in all it was much easier than I thought it would be.
Here is my take on a few things. I had heated grips on mine. I chose NOT to put them back on. I live in Texas and don't need them.
I also have ABS. I thought about taking it to the dealer to have the brakes bleed but I decided to try it my self.
So I went to Harbor Freight and bought a brake line bleeder that attaches to the air compressor.
It creates a vacuum and pulls fluid thru the line. I hooked that sucker up and pulled 24 oz of DOT4 fluid thru the front brakes in about 2 minutes!
I am not kidding, I pulled the fluid thru untill there was enough for 2 good reservoirs worth of fluid in the bottle.
I then did the pump and hold method the crack the bleeder open and repeat for the last reservoir fill.
It worked like a charm and I have the same or better brakes than I did before swapping the bars and been riding the bike every day since the install with no problems.
I went plus 8" on the cables and it was more than enough but not too much. Allows me to go bigger in the future if I want.
Just do what I did, grab a bottle of Makers Mark on a Saturday night and wake up in the morning to a disassembled bike with no recollection of the tear down and no idea what or where half the parts came from.
It's kinda like a jigsaw puzzle when it comes time to put it back together and makes a man out of ya!......lol
It was a lot easier than I expected pulling the wires thru the bars. The splicing and soldering took a little time and swapping out the control housings to chrome one was a little tedious but all in all it was much easier than I thought it would be.
Here is my take on a few things. I had heated grips on mine. I chose NOT to put them back on. I live in Texas and don't need them.
I also have ABS. I thought about taking it to the dealer to have the brakes bleed but I decided to try it my self.
So I went to Harbor Freight and bought a brake line bleeder that attaches to the air compressor.
It creates a vacuum and pulls fluid thru the line. I hooked that sucker up and pulled 24 oz of DOT4 fluid thru the front brakes in about 2 minutes!
I am not kidding, I pulled the fluid thru untill there was enough for 2 good reservoirs worth of fluid in the bottle.
I then did the pump and hold method the crack the bleeder open and repeat for the last reservoir fill.
It worked like a charm and I have the same or better brakes than I did before swapping the bars and been riding the bike every day since the install with no problems.
I went plus 8" on the cables and it was more than enough but not too much. Allows me to go bigger in the future if I want.
Just do what I did, grab a bottle of Makers Mark on a Saturday night and wake up in the morning to a disassembled bike with no recollection of the tear down and no idea what or where half the parts came from.
It's kinda like a jigsaw puzzle when it comes time to put it back together and makes a man out of ya!......lol
Tourer
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 337
Likes: 1
From: Deerfield Beach, FL
Well, since it has ABS, the line that needs extended goes from the master cylinder to the ABS module which is under the seat, behind the right side cover. There is no "tee" in it, the "tee" that you're seeing is part of the line that goes from the ABS module to the front calipers. I'm not sure exactly what the extension needs to be but 4" will certainly do it and you can always leave any slack inside the fairing. If you install the line and bleed it through the master cylinder you won't need a H-D scan tool to bleed the ABS as you will not introduce any air into the module.
In my opinion you would be a serious glutton for punishment if you tackled trying to shove additional wiring through those bars, unless you enjoy massive amounts of frustration, don't do it.
In my opinion you would be a serious glutton for punishment if you tackled trying to shove additional wiring through those bars, unless you enjoy massive amounts of frustration, don't do it.
I put the Yaffe 12" MBB on and bought +6 on the Clutch (barely fit) and +4 on the brakes (barely fit). At least they have two piece top and I only wasted $60. I can't imagine I have them routed wrong, there aren't really many options to run either of those. The midpoint of the brake line is right and the bottom of the bars, not good in my opinion, it'll scratch the hell out of the bottom of the bars...
Road Master
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 824
Likes: 2
From: O'fallon IL
I just ordered the 12" pyo mbb. I have a 12 street glide. Will the stock wires reach everything or will I need extensions? Also what size clutch and brake cables do I need. And to confirm I don't have to replace the two lines to my front brake coming from right under the fairing? Just the line going from the bars to those correct?
Many thanks.
Many thanks.
I used 6 in over for both clutch and brake cables. A 4 in over clutch will work but you need the 6 in for the brake. No, you don't have to replace the brake lines running from the calipers to the tee under the tree. However, most guys replace crappy stock cables with stainless, in which case you would want it all to match.
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 41
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Got it, I was just going to get the namz +8 wire and +8 tbw extension. I don't know if I want to get a la choppers kit for the cables or try to piece together some magnums or maybe another brand I've yet to hear of. Any suggestions? I'm doing black bars and black cables.
Stock front brake lines going to the calipers don't really bother me I'd like to just replace the clutch cable abs upper front brake line right now.
Any input on the quality differences between la and mag? The mags look a lot bigger and braided.
Only thing when I select the +8 upper brake line it doesn't look long enough to get to the abs box from the bars. What am I missing withe the magnums???
Stock front brake lines going to the calipers don't really bother me I'd like to just replace the clutch cable abs upper front brake line right now.
Any input on the quality differences between la and mag? The mags look a lot bigger and braided.
Only thing when I select the +8 upper brake line it doesn't look long enough to get to the abs box from the bars. What am I missing withe the magnums???
Intermediate
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 41
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Looks like I have to buy the magnum mid line brake assembly which connects to the abs box then to the upper brake line assembly which goes to the front mc.
Are the magnums much better quality than the la choppers its 50$ more for all the cables from la choppers rather than just the 3/pcs I'm getting here. Anyone seen or used them both?
Are the magnums much better quality than the la choppers its 50$ more for all the cables from la choppers rather than just the 3/pcs I'm getting here. Anyone seen or used them both?
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 973
Likes: 2
From: New Jersey
If you need to put the bike back together immediately, I would go with the LA Choppers. If you can take the bike apart, and have time to measure the cables and then order them, I would go with Magnum. That way you'll prevent too much slack. JMO
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Club Member
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 887
Likes: 1
From: Spring, Texas
Got it, I was just going to get the namz +8 wire and +8 tbw extension. I don't know if I want to get a la choppers kit for the cables or try to piece together some magnums or maybe another brand I've yet to hear of. Any suggestions? I'm doing black bars and black cables.
Stock front brake lines going to the calipers don't really bother me I'd like to just replace the clutch cable abs upper front brake line right now.
Any input on the quality differences between la and mag? The mags look a lot bigger and braided.
Only thing when I select the +8 upper brake line it doesn't look long enough to get to the abs box from the bars. What am I missing withe the magnums???
Stock front brake lines going to the calipers don't really bother me I'd like to just replace the clutch cable abs upper front brake line right now.
Any input on the quality differences between la and mag? The mags look a lot bigger and braided.
Only thing when I select the +8 upper brake line it doesn't look long enough to get to the abs box from the bars. What am I missing withe the magnums???
In his word, "If something ever goes wrong with one of your wire slices out on the road, you are screwed!!"
I took his advice and bought the CVO TBW twist grip sensor kit. It is extra length and was plenty long enough for my 13" bars.
It is one solid length of wires with the wire ends already having pins on them and comes with a new plug.
Just pull the wires, put the plug on and your done, no splices.
It was worth the $80 I paid for the kit.