obsolete SERT?
I was told the same as lonewolf stated ,as long as you have the upgrade on the software you can use the old one,as he said the sert is married to one bike,..i posted about buying used ones on ebay,scam... For a few hundred you could buy a thundremax auto tune.thats the way to go ..imho
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as for the buzzing have a different wrench check the cranck runout.the first dealer screwed ya on the tune.i havent kept up with the new tuners but with the old sert many got charged for dyno time and got a canned map with one wot pull so they could hand u a sheet.this dealer sounds like u might have been better off with a canned map.
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From: Monmouth, OR
My dealer wanted to charge me to install an a/c on my bike (I already had the SE Nightstick slip-on installed). I had the SERT already, so bought the software and cables and did the job myself. Worked great with the "canned" map on the disk, hopefully I'll be able to do more with it as I work with it. I was told I could use my software on any bike, as long as each bike had their individual SERT. I didn't want to deal with a piggyback device either.
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From: NE Ohio
Your dealer is just jamming it to you without even giving you a reach around. Like others have told you the tuner is independent of the dyno. I have the original SERT on my 06 Ultra and just this past summer had it tuned on a dyno using the SERT with no problem. This next winter I'm going to pull the engine and go either 113 or 120 and it will be tuned with the same SERT I've had since September 2005. Yesterday I made an appointment at a Harley dealer to have my 2010 Trike dyno tuned using the TTS which is made by the same fine folks who made your SERT. They have the latest Dynojet dyno (DJ250ix) and the guy doing the tuning has no problems using the TTS. I choose the TTS because I can make speedometer calibration changes which Harley Davidsons offering can't. The only thing your dealer is attempting to satisfy is their own bottom line. I used to do business with a dealer much like that, I stress I used to do business. I got tired of being lied to and having to deal with their inept mechanics.
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Your dealer is just jamming it to you without even giving you a reach around. Like others have told you the tuner is independent of the dyno. I have the original SERT on my 06 Ultra and just this past summer had it tuned on a dyno using the SERT with no problem. This next winter I'm going to pull the engine and go either 113 or 120 and it will be tuned with the same SERT I've had since September 2005. Yesterday I made an appointment at a Harley dealer to have my 2010 Trike dyno tuned using the TTS which is made by the same fine folks who made your SERT. They have the latest Dynojet dyno (DJ250ix) and the guy doing the tuning has no problems using the TTS. I choose the TTS because I can make speedometer calibration changes which Harley Davidsons offering can't. The only thing your dealer is attempting to satisfy is their own bottom line. I used to do business with a dealer much like that, I stress I used to do business. I got tired of being lied to and having to deal with their inept mechanics.
They are allowed big book-time for tuning because a good tune takes a lot of time. But they 'settle' so often after the tune becomes mediocre close, because of their compulsion to capitalize. Put 2 hours into it and get paid for 5. They are proud of that amongst their peers.
A good independent is usually more worried about his reputation, than fussing with the time pressure. He wants to hold his head high, when people look at that dyno sheet. "I tuned that bike".
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From: Illinois
yeah, you got hosed. There was no need to upgrade your SERT to re-tune your bike, but then again, there was no need to re-tune your bike because you hit a pothole.
And whoever said their dealer used the cd and not the SERT to tune their bike has it backwards. They used the SERT and had no use for the CD since the software was already loaded in their computer. Either that or they didn't tune your bike at all, just did a dyno pull and called it "close enough".
Dennis
And whoever said their dealer used the cd and not the SERT to tune their bike has it backwards. They used the SERT and had no use for the CD since the software was already loaded in their computer. Either that or they didn't tune your bike at all, just did a dyno pull and called it "close enough".
Dennis
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Dealers are too "book-time" oriented for me to trust them on something so precious as tuning.
They are allowed big book-time for tuning because a good tune takes a lot of time. But they 'settle' so often after the tune becomes mediocre close, because of their compulsion to capitalize. Put 2 hours into it and get paid for 5. They are proud of that amongst their peers.
A good independent is usually more worried about his reputation, than fussing with the time pressure. He wants to hold his head high, when people look at that dyno sheet. "I tuned that bike".
They are allowed big book-time for tuning because a good tune takes a lot of time. But they 'settle' so often after the tune becomes mediocre close, because of their compulsion to capitalize. Put 2 hours into it and get paid for 5. They are proud of that amongst their peers.
A good independent is usually more worried about his reputation, than fussing with the time pressure. He wants to hold his head high, when people look at that dyno sheet. "I tuned that bike".
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just got back.... bike runs good on the power, but a little lean at cruise and idle since the map is locked at 14.6 for an O2 reading under light load... I am told to correct that we need to drop the O2 function and lock in a 14.0-14.2 number on areas of the map... pulls real good other than that, better than ever actually... best stock block 96 i've ever ridden..
they did say this new HD tuner won't do speedo recal, so I seriously need to investigate that aspect now
all opinions welcome..
they did say this new HD tuner won't do speedo recal, so I seriously need to investigate that aspect now
all opinions welcome..
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Joined: Dec 2006
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From: Miami, Fla.
whats with this crank runout buzz? a friend told me today to see if the belt was too tight, and maybe the tire shifted back on the hit, gonna try and check that tomorrow night, rides straight as rails though with hands off..
also, the intake gasket was leaking on the back jug, and was replaced under warranty, didn't make much difference before the tune began,,,
you guys got me thinking about something with the hit and the ecm harness location, thanx
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Just a little of topic but clb's of 762 will give you a switch point of 14.53 afr. To get to 14.2 you would need to set them to 803. This is too far to adjust them as they degrade over time and their operating range narrows. If you want to run at 14.2 you are better off to take the bike out of closed loop and set that value on the afr table. Unfortunately you will now be relying on the ve tables being accurately calibrated.