Hate throttle by wire
Road Captain
Joined: Feb 2012
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From: Down the road a bit in Texas
Don't recall any concerns with it when new without the PC-V and dyno.
Cruiser
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 153
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From: Ventura Co.
Anybody convert from TBW back to cables with a carb? I hate it more and more everyday. I've been riding my 01 RK more and more as a result. Too sensitive on decel. Slightest twist forward and the RPMs drop off drastically. 12K miles on my 12 RK and I can't still cant get comfortable with it. I have no problem giving up the cruise control at this point! I HATE TBW!
Please don't respond with reasons not to convert and how superior FI is to carb!
o~'o
Please don't respond with reasons not to convert and how superior FI is to carb!
o~'o
5th Gear
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 9
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From: AZ
There are other factors which may be affecting the issue -
- newer engines run very lean, therefore hesitation AND some excessive response (surge) compared to older bikes
- you might flunk emissions test if you down-convert.
- The one-cylinder idle feature on the newer engines may be affecting start-roll response - try shutting it off (see owner manual)
- newer engines run very lean, therefore hesitation AND some excessive response (surge) compared to older bikes
- you might flunk emissions test if you down-convert.
- The one-cylinder idle feature on the newer engines may be affecting start-roll response - try shutting it off (see owner manual)
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 154
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From: Denver Co.
Anybody convert from TBW back to cables with a carb? I hate it more and more everyday. I've been riding my 01 RK more and more as a result. Too sensitive on decel. Slightest twist forward and the RPMs drop off drastically. 12K miles on my 12 RK and I can't still cant get comfortable with it. I have no problem giving up the cruise control at this point! I HATE TBW!
Please don't respond with reasons not to convert and how superior FI is to carb!
o~'o
Please don't respond with reasons not to convert and how superior FI is to carb!
o~'o
I don't know what you could have wrong but to tell ya the truth I wouldn't know mine was TBW if I hadn't read about it here and elsewhere. I don't have any lag or sensitivity issues others have mentioned. I have had over forty years riding carb'd cabled bikes and didn't notice the difference on the new RGU, in either stock tune or stage 1 tune. It sounds like someone tweaked parameters on yours and not in the correct direction. Take it to the dealer or a different dealer and see what they say about it. Take a test ride on other 12 RK's and see if they feel the same. As far as I can tell it should not feel noticeably different from a cabled bike.
I do feel your pain about the complexity of the newer systems but I think going back to carb may not be the best solution. I believe that would involve changing ECM, Ignition, and other electronics as well. Could be a real can of worms and would no doubt void your warranty. Hope you get it sorted out.
Intermediate
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 28
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From: Saratoga Springs, Utah
Im still trying to get the hang of it. Went from an 07 Night Train to a 2011 SG. I love the cruise control, but the decel is a little annoying. When I get it Dyno'd and remapped(Pipes & Intake) I will talk with the tech about it and see if there is anything that can be done. Hope so.
Cruiser
Joined: Apr 2012
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From: Western NY
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Road Master
Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Republic of Texas
Ridiculous
Anybody convert from TBW back to cables with a carb? I hate it more and more everyday. I've been riding my 01 RK more and more as a result. Too sensitive on decel. Slightest twist forward and the RPMs drop off drastically. 12K miles on my 12 RK and I can't still cant get comfortable with it. I have no problem giving up the cruise control at this point! I HATE TBW!
Please don't respond with reasons not to convert and how superior FI is to carb!
Please don't respond with reasons not to convert and how superior FI is to carb!
Having owned touring HDs both before and after "TBW", the difference has been non-existent to me. IMO, if there's anything THAT unrideable about your bike, there's a maintenance issue to be addressed. It should be transparent.
Last edited by racklefratz; May 14, 2013 at 07:05 PM.
Cruiser
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 228
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From: Katy, TX
I'm not sure if this is possible, but when I went to new bars (WO578) about a month ago, we-dealer ended up going with the CVO throttle by wire (longer, without the goofy green plug) Anyway, mine is now extremely touchy on any decel, and any bump for that matter... I do not remember this before...