Throttle response (torque)
Stop right where you are. The 08 you are currently riding has different gearing than the bike you test rode. The rear belt pulley on your bike is a 66t and the touring bikes since 09 have been fitted with 68t rear belt pulleys. Yes you can put a 68 on your bike without a belt change. Do a search on here and other places for the info. Less than $200 and even if you decide to go big bore you will still want to fit the 68t rear belt pulley. It makes a noticeable difference.
The water-cooled exhaust valves in the 2014 models have enabled Harley to increase CR and use better cams. So the clue is in that sentence! If you use a 107 kit, such as the FM suggested, you will get increased CR, better cams, plus a reprogrammed ECU (via a PCV). Sorted!
A combination of things. It has a better ecm and new software strategy 614. It also has new cams that are close to the SE255. 2° more duration on the Intake 2° less on the exhaust. It doesn't have as much lift as the 255 and has little more lift than stock. These are not official numbers, but numbers I have found on internet and we all know these have got to be accurate. They do have more compression. Our dealership put a stage 1 with 2 in 1 and SEPST with upgrade map on a 14 street glide and says it runs ever bit as strong as a SE255 stage 2 upgrade to 103. It is the combination of all of it.
Andrews 48s and a proper tuner and tune. Your PC3 and true duels are killing ya. But yeah, bore/headwork/compression/big cams will walk the dog (at least in the harley world).
Last edited by 0ldhippie; Oct 30, 2013 at 05:23 PM.
Good luck on what you choose but a rear gear change and some 204's, good exhaust and tune, I think you'd be happy.
My 09FLHTP is in for cams right now!
Really happy with the way the 103 runs, but you can ALWAYS use a little more.
I'm now running FM's stage one setup w S&S SPO's.
Picked up a set of the dreaded SE255's Take offs from a SE motor for $100. Local Indy is installing them, should have it back next week.
ALL my riding is 2K-3K, wind it up to 4K when I'm in a hurry. This should be my last upgrade. Planning on riding this one into retirement!
My only other concern is if FM's map isn't as perfect as the Stage One I am running, may add AutoTune to the PCV and dial it in myself.
Did this same thing to the wife's 02FLHPI, fuel mileage was 36-38, she is now running 43-48 w/PCV and AutoTune. Recent trip down to Alabaster Caverns in Ok, we both made 48-53 mpg coming home on Ok. real gas no ethenal.
Dan B.
Central Ks.
Really happy with the way the 103 runs, but you can ALWAYS use a little more.
I'm now running FM's stage one setup w S&S SPO's.
Picked up a set of the dreaded SE255's Take offs from a SE motor for $100. Local Indy is installing them, should have it back next week.
ALL my riding is 2K-3K, wind it up to 4K when I'm in a hurry. This should be my last upgrade. Planning on riding this one into retirement!
My only other concern is if FM's map isn't as perfect as the Stage One I am running, may add AutoTune to the PCV and dial it in myself.
Did this same thing to the wife's 02FLHPI, fuel mileage was 36-38, she is now running 43-48 w/PCV and AutoTune. Recent trip down to Alabaster Caverns in Ok, we both made 48-53 mpg coming home on Ok. real gas no ethenal.
Dan B.
Central Ks.
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