1,6 did fix the gear indication, that was screwed up in 1.8. 1.6 gives you back the ability to turn off/disable/enable on demand the OBDll function. Be advised that with 1.8 you don't have that ability, and if you clear and codes in your bike, it will not start until approx 15 attempts. The security light is still an issue. I am done updating until the security light issue is fixed, that our biggest dilemma on the 2014's. Has anyone figured out where to set the oil pressure setting at? It seems that no matter where I set it the alert pops up warning low oil pressure. I have disable that alert for now. Good Luck to everyone, at least the are trying to solves some issues. I really wish when IDATA kicks out new firmware they would have a description of what issues were addressed.

 

I agree they are working on it. Release notes are needed to be published. They do have a tough time in that cars dont have all the variables that harley's do. They need to have a number of users that live close by bring bikes in to debug. I am sure if they started with 2014 and forward they would be solving issues in the new bikes. The reverse isn't the case. Its a great concept that is sold aheads of it truly working 100%. For me ThunderMax ECU isn't supported and DTC's are greyed out... red light on, no cruise control or volume. I also wish they took the publicly available control card from Volunteer audio and made that the default thumb controls ! The defaults make zero sense... Volunteer has done a excellent job communicating and providing a card that makes sense.

 

You are correct thay are working on it. Like I said in a previous post they were working on the 2020and up hoping it would fix the issues with the 2014.

As far as a fix for aftermarket ECM/ Tuners what we were are told is there will probley will not be a fix because of canbuss crash.

On the updates the version with SS is for the sound stream unit ( RR-HD02-DS-SS) wich is V1.9 for Harley headunit.
We as venders wish they would publish release notes but understand there time is better well spent fixing the problems.

They are based in canada not alot of harleys to do testing on.

Controls setup. there are different controls on differentt bikes so the went with a basic setup to get you going and gave you the ability to change to to what you prefer.
If you purchase a unit from us at Ryding Gear we flash the unit to your specific controls with your input on how you want it setup.

 

The default hand control programming makes zero sense. The defaults for Harley should be what Volunteer publishes in my opinion. Here is the thumb control layout. Works like the factory but better:

https://volunteeraudio.com/wp-conten.../note-card.jpg

It's great you support your clients as well and do it for them. When I contacted ThunderMax support their reply is:idatalink maestro support

Leigh, I am not sure what you are referring to the ECM does not control the data link. The data link consist of power, ground can high and can low. So do you plug the controls into the data link?

Sincerely,

Steven

Thunder-Max Customer Support Agent

I think the only solution is to bring up a FLH to Montreal and let their product team have use of the machine with the stock ECM and the Thundermax ECM so they can figure out how to make it work,
ThunderMax has been super popular for many years and sports brand new bikes so this will be an ongoing problem. Does anyone from Idata read this forum ?

 

Steven
From my understanding of the info given from Maestro tech support is that the maestro unit is looking for the stock ECM setup to retreave the information for the gauges if there is a deviation it causes a can crash.
On the tuners if the tuner is in hooked in line and looking for the same information that the maestro unit is looking for at the same time it will have a can crash.
Its all about the way the Maestro unit is looking for the information.

Does anyone from Idata read this forum ? I don,t think so.
The responce we get when we ask about supporting aftermarket ECM,s and tuners is that it probley won't happen they are onyl working on the stock appla. Wich is a problem since 90% of harleys have some type of tuner.

When a customer comes in looking for the sound stream headunit we ask two questions right off the bat are you running a tuner and are you wanting the gauges in the Si unit.
If the ansor is yes to the tuner and they dont care about the Gauges in the headunit we stir them to the HDHU14+ same great sound less problems.
There is no Can Buss crash with scosche unit and tuners or ECM's because there not looking for the same information.

 

I got the same from data when I speak to them. I explain a ECM vs a tuner. Tuners plug into the OBD port for its communication. the ECM isn't the same. Thundermax is a full ECM just like the factory with the difference being you can adjust settings programmatically and it has an auto tune logic. There isn't can bus communication with a ThunderMax ECM. It's quite expensive and have had it for years. Absolutely love it. I did reach out to Thundermax support and I am told Idata has not reached out to them. They are glad to support their Maestro work. Here is a thread from ThunderMax support:

Leigh, I am not sure what you are referring to the ThunderMax ECM does not control the data link. The data link consist of power, ground can high and can low. So do you plug the controls into the data link?

Sincerely,

Steven

Thunder-Max Customer Support Agent

Very clear answer from ThunderMax. It's really bug that when iDatalink solves in the Maestro product will fix all the 2014 and newer Harley bikes (how many is that I dont know but a lot) that keep having issues. I read threads about guys just waiting to see that it's solved before buying the Soundstream and iDatalink. I am going to report to the support staff to see if they are going to be at Laconia NH Bike week. That would be the ideal location for them to test and debug in real life. Just 3 ish hour drive from their offices.

 

I really wanted to get this radio. I have a 2014 SGS. Not sure it’s fixed enough for me to want to fight through what some of you are helping with. Appreciate your early adoption, but man this has to be frustrating to drop this kind of money on something that still doesn’t work right.

 

Hdrmbl
Are you looking for the gauge option or the better sounding headunit?
The HDHU 14+ is the same headunit witch uses a Scosche Handlebar controller without the gauges,backup camara option and SXM and without the communication issues.
If you are looking for the Gauge option with the Maestro coltroller prepare to be frustrated tell they can figure it out.

 

Good day to all. Hoping i can pick someones brain for the issues im currently having. My ride is a 2017 Ultra Limited. The bike was sporting the stock boom radio when last year i decided to install myself the eight speaker system with both amps and all the wiring harnesses for the Rockford Fosgate Stage 2 system sold by HD. All went well and never had a problem with the setup. I was waiting to pull the trigger and install the HDHU-14si until i saw a video from Jay at Volunteer audio stating that the radio would now recognize the Rockford Fosgate amps so i ordered it with the maestro rr and the Sirius xm module. Installation was a breeze as per instructions and upon doing a systems check i noticed that it only provides sound out of 4 speakers and not all 8. The primary left saddlebag provides the sound for the fairing speakers and the saddlebag lids. The secondary amp in the right saddlebag provides the sound for the Tour-pak and the Lower front fairing speakers. Currently the only sound im getting is from the saddlebag speakers and the lower front fairing speakers which leads me to believe that both primary and secondary amps are working. I tried to see if this was a adjustment setting on the radios fade and balance but there seems to be No adjustement i can do in this setting as these setting do not seem to work at all on this radio and the tech at Volunteer audio tells me that they are aware of this and it will get fixed with a update....im like wtf !!!!
So im thinking who the heck sells a supposed to be top notch address it all radio that doesnt have balance and fader adjustments (not that im thinking this will fix my problem but its worth a try. Tech at volunteer advices to reflash maestro which i did only to find out it wasnt flashed to my type of bike in the first place and he wanted me to turn off the amp feature in its settings and flashed to no joy. Still having the same issue as stated above. Removed the radio harness and installed the oem harness back into the boom radio and all works fine. At this point dunno what to do next if send the radio back or do further troubleshooting hoping someone knows something. Dunno if its worth mentioning but i do have my fp3 connected to the bike and i dunno if this has any impact on this situation. Thanks for any advice. God bless...

 

Stryker61
Did you get the BIN coad off your old Harley radio to input into your SI radio for the factory amp setup?