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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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Clutch work today, not through with it yet, still have to run the dial-indicator around the cover. Had to get it on so I can rotate the engine with the rear wheel.
Killed a couple of black widow spiders the other day, two on the floor, one creeping me out walking on the ceiling right above me, just looking at me, damn they have excellent vision
I'm certainly not afraid of spiders with the exception of those that follow me like I owe 'em 20 bucks and they're there to collect!
So squatting on the clutch side working on the clutch, one comes walking to me, no biggy, squash it. Then a few minutes later one lowers itself from a thread from the rear wheel (bike is on the jack). So yeah, squashed it.
I think it's time I did a little insecticiding



Friction discs and steel spacers, you wipe the friction discs with the lube, they absorbed more than I thought they would:



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Break-in oil recommended by Baisley:

 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 07:38 PM
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There is a Thread going on over at HTT about the 14 oz primary oil quanity that Bandit recommends....you may have seen it but if not, the consensus was more fluid was needed. I'm running about 28 oz now, and have no clutch problems at all.

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That's good to hear knowing the compensator wants more fluid.

HD Bobber is running the, hmm, a different one, I can't remember it's name, the other one, anyway, Scorpion, I think that's it, anyway, I think off the bat they say it can handle regular amount of fluid like OEM amount; I wonder if they are a different material or if they just say "hey, are clutch works fine with the OEM amount". I mean, how space-age different could the friction material actually be?

I was planning on running a little more, now I plan to run more than a little more

I spoke with Bandit this morning, they said to try the gray springs and one washer so I put that in, fairly stiff pull, what are you running in yours?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Suede Blue Man
I spoke with Bandit this morning, they said to try the gray springs and one washer so I put that in, fairly stiff pull, what are you running in yours?
John recommended the gold + 3 or 4 shims to me. I tried to install 4 shims at first and found it difficult to get the spring retaining screw started - was afraid of damaging threads, so I went to 3 shims.

I think I am a tad on the light side but I think grey + 1 shim is too much for a 107", sounds more like what guys are using on 124" builds. Up to you but might just try out the grey spring and no shim, it will ease the clutch pull a shade and should be more than enough to hold a 107". When I had my dyno done with the gold +3, there was no clutch slipping and I had a much lighter clutch pull than with the old SE clutch spring which was much lighter than the even older Barnett clutch spring.
 
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Originally Posted by Suede Blue Man
That's good to hear knowing the compensator wants more fluid.

HD Bobber is running the, hmm, a different one, I can't remember it's name, the other one, anyway, Scorpion, I think that's it, anyway, I think off the bat they say it can handle regular amount of fluid like OEM amount; I wonder if they are a different material or if they just say "hey, are clutch works fine with the OEM amount". I mean, how space-age different could the friction material actually be?

I was planning on running a little more, now I plan to run more than a little more

I spoke with Bandit this morning, they said to try the gray springs and one washer so I put that in, fairly stiff pull, what are you running in yours?
Hey Suede,

As for the oils to use I think it has a lot to do w/ the clutch material. The Barnett Scorpion I run is the only one to offer Carbon Fiber plates and the others (Evo Industries, Rivera Pro Clutch, and Bandit) all use Carbon Kevlar.....I think it's the Kevlar material that doesn't play well w/ the slippery/synthetic fluids. Regardless, Bandit, is still the only one out of the other carbon Kevlar units that requires the least, which leads me to believe that the hub was built a certain way. Combo of that and the material is maybe why they figured the little amount works best for their setup.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2016 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Suede Blue Man
That's good to hear knowing the compensator wants more fluid.

HD Bobber is running the, hmm, a different one, I can't remember it's name, the other one, anyway, Scorpion, I think that's it, anyway, I think off the bat they say it can handle regular amount of fluid like OEM amount; I wonder if they are a different material or if they just say "hey, are clutch works fine with the OEM amount". I mean, how space-age different could the friction material actually be?

I was planning on running a little more, now I plan to run more than a little more

I spoke with Bandit this morning, they said to try the gray springs and one washer so I put that in, fairly stiff pull, what are you running in yours?
I'm running gray springs with no shims. There was minimal slippage at peak torque on the dyno but the clutch was brand new and still breaking in. I'd be willing to bet there is zero clutch slip now. The lever pull is great with the gray springs and no shims. Hey before you button up that primary, can you grab the top and bottom of your ring gear and wiggle it? Like pull on the top and push on the bottom and then vice versa? Mine has a little movement and it's still tripping me out, I still can't figure out where the noise in my primary is coming from
 
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Well I just swapped out to gold springs with 2 washers, pull is lighter for sure, maybe I'll try that.

Monster, ring gear is rock solid, no wiggle at all.

Looking at lifters/blocks, pistons/cylinders/heads today, gotta scrub the cylinders up.
 
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Coming together nicely! Just don't leave any tools in the primary when you button it up...
 
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Coming together nicely! Just don't leave any tools in the primary when you button it up...
That's it, the jinx is on
 
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I have scrubbed, srubbed, and scrubbed some more on just one jug and will scrub on it a little more tomorrow I need to get something skinny to scrub the oil passages better though, tried a rifle bore patch but that ain't gonna cut it Damn those cylinders take some scrubbing.

Cleaned the pistons, wiped down the rings, got the rear ready to go in the compressor but got to be satisfied with the jug cleaning first.

I've had the Jims piston clip installer and compressor waiting for this for months, I wasn't able to extract the old clips with the tool but they went in lickity-split, zip-zang, nice and easy





 
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