Primary stuff
[QUOTE=Suede Blue Man;14680215]Alright, anyway, any damned way.
So, now the abbreviated version:
Matt, disagree with you on the tensioner, it's like an unforgiving noose, don't fool yourself, there is no holy grail of 1/8" cushion in it's spring, that's a pipe dream, an illusion, smoke and mirrors. It's like the mercy I would show a thief if I caught one in my house, non-existent.
Screw it, I'm gonna post some pics before something else happens to **** me off and then I'll add commentary after the fact.QUOTE]
Hey Suede Blue Man, let us know what amount of primary fluid you decided to fill, the 40 ounces recommended to keep the compensator lubed and living or the 14ounces recommended by Bandit so the clutch works properly and doesn't drag.
So, now the abbreviated version:
Matt, disagree with you on the tensioner, it's like an unforgiving noose, don't fool yourself, there is no holy grail of 1/8" cushion in it's spring, that's a pipe dream, an illusion, smoke and mirrors. It's like the mercy I would show a thief if I caught one in my house, non-existent.
Screw it, I'm gonna post some pics before something else happens to **** me off and then I'll add commentary after the fact.QUOTE]
Hey Suede Blue Man, let us know what amount of primary fluid you decided to fill, the 40 ounces recommended to keep the compensator lubed and living or the 14ounces recommended by Bandit so the clutch works properly and doesn't drag.
Last edited by qtrracer; Dec 22, 2015 at 05:23 PM.
Both the Bandit Clutch and the Baker basket/tensioner came packed very well. Being someone who knows how to over pack stuff for safety/security I am an expert on recognizing good packing......and it was all packed well.
The Bandit folks use that expanding foam packing stuff so they win that hand for sure, foam packing beats a four-of-a-kind no matter how you slice it but I'd never bet against a four-of-a-kind so put that in your smoke and pipe it nonetheless
The SM states that on the second torque you torque the compensator to 175lbs, when I took mine off last night I would swear on a stack of Gideon bibles that it took much less than that to get it off and it's never been off since I bought it. It wasn't loose, no, I'm not saying that, I'm saying it was not at 175lbs torque and I've been calibrated myself since when I first joined the Army in 1980. Not saying I'm perfect or gifted or anything, just that I'm calibrated; if you pay attention in basic training you get calibrated and that's just the way it is.
So then; the clutch main nut is 1-3/16th's, so bam, off it comes, and it didn't feel like 80lbs like the book says either
Hmm, I see a pattern here, maybe I'm just not getting enough and I'm like Superman or something...all the more reason to get more 
So, I had to put a zip tie around the tensioner and the chain because I had zero, maybe even negative zero slack between the chain and the tensioner (you read that Matt
).
The whole shebang (that's the first time I've ever written/typed "shebang"), compensator, chain/tensioner/clutch comes out without any guff, it wants to come off.
Everything looks good, all splines are clean with no cause for concern at all. The compensator sprocket shows a little rub but nothing to draw attention to itself so it will go back in, as opposed to say replacing it with the Baker Compensator. I think they have a good piece of kit there but for now I'll just run what I brung.
How's 'bout some more pics before another catastrophe hits:




Alright, so there's that.
The Bandit folks use that expanding foam packing stuff so they win that hand for sure, foam packing beats a four-of-a-kind no matter how you slice it but I'd never bet against a four-of-a-kind so put that in your smoke and pipe it nonetheless
The SM states that on the second torque you torque the compensator to 175lbs, when I took mine off last night I would swear on a stack of Gideon bibles that it took much less than that to get it off and it's never been off since I bought it. It wasn't loose, no, I'm not saying that, I'm saying it was not at 175lbs torque and I've been calibrated myself since when I first joined the Army in 1980. Not saying I'm perfect or gifted or anything, just that I'm calibrated; if you pay attention in basic training you get calibrated and that's just the way it is.
So then; the clutch main nut is 1-3/16th's, so bam, off it comes, and it didn't feel like 80lbs like the book says either

So, I had to put a zip tie around the tensioner and the chain because I had zero, maybe even negative zero slack between the chain and the tensioner (you read that Matt
). The whole shebang (that's the first time I've ever written/typed "shebang"), compensator, chain/tensioner/clutch comes out without any guff, it wants to come off.
Everything looks good, all splines are clean with no cause for concern at all. The compensator sprocket shows a little rub but nothing to draw attention to itself so it will go back in, as opposed to say replacing it with the Baker Compensator. I think they have a good piece of kit there but for now I'll just run what I brung.
How's 'bout some more pics before another catastrophe hits:




Alright, so there's that.
Hey Suede, digging the primary ****!
Every aspect of the Bandit clutch is impressive - delivery time, packaging, customer service, material quality, and performace!
Only negative is the lack of instruction as to the famous "dots" to align for a perfect install, but you got that sh_t covered with previous HD Forum installers.
Looks like you are on your way, keep it coming.
Don't mess with Matt too much, he is a high level thinker
- might get hurt!
Every aspect of the Bandit clutch is impressive - delivery time, packaging, customer service, material quality, and performace!
Only negative is the lack of instruction as to the famous "dots" to align for a perfect install, but you got that sh_t covered with previous HD Forum installers.
Looks like you are on your way, keep it coming.
Don't mess with Matt too much, he is a high level thinker
Last edited by HD Pilot; Dec 22, 2015 at 08:49 PM.
Sigh....
I will not purchase a new clutch, I will not purchase a new clutch, foam packaging is wasteful, philosophically this will prevent me from buying a new clutch...
Why did I open this thread!
I will not purchase a new clutch, I will not purchase a new clutch, foam packaging is wasteful, philosophically this will prevent me from buying a new clutch...
Why did I open this thread!
Sure will although, sounds like 16-18 is the magic number from other owners.
Don't be a wuss, you know you want one
I think I forgot to mention that my basket came with the bearing and lock ring already installed, the only thing I had to do was get the hub pressed in and my dealer did that for me today for a small fee, under $10.
I don't have a press of my own nor know anyone with one or else I would have done it myself. They had to use a socket too to support the bearing.
I don't have a press of my own nor know anyone with one or else I would have done it myself. They had to use a socket too to support the bearing.
Lookin good suede! Do you have a dial indicator to check runout and travel on the pressure plate? My runout was on the far edge of spec so I was good, I don't know what your suppose to do if it's out of spec. I guess that may mean the output is bent or something. I've seen guys on htt running up to 24oz with the bandit and say they feel no drag, I think I may bump it up to 20oz and see what happens, my baker comp is already showing wear signs with around 5k on it, I may end up just doing a sprocket and ditching the comp, we'll see. I see you pressed that hub in all the way to the 2nd groove for the snap ring, I don't remember if I did that, is that for the 11-later bearing or was I suppose to do that too?? Wonder if that's the issue I'm having in the primary....
New style bearing for 2011 up is 21mm thick and the old style for 2010 back is 27mm. Bandit has rings/grooves for both bearings, so for 2011 up when you press in the hub the second/inner most ring will be the one to use.





