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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:16 PM
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Hey Brother, when testing the module, should I disconnect the ground lead wire from the ignition module connected to the ground side of the coil post when cranking it over to check for ground flashing? Or do I leave it connected to the coil ground post for testing? Should I connect the negative end of the test light directly to the lead module ground wire (disconnected from the coil post) to test (ground lead wire from module) for flashing ground to the module when cranking it over? Should the positive side of the test light be connected to the positive battery post or the positive post on the coil to properly perform this test?
Just a back yard mechanic trying to fix my 98' Heritage.

Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.

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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 1997bagger
Heat and electrical, to keep from guessing and hanging parts, the test light can be your friend. Sounds like you know the location of possible failing parts, start with that relay, should be a constant positve, ignition feed, ground and power out when active, see if a source goes away, if it does you have a direction to follow a wire or relay replacement, loose/heated teminal, corrosion or bad ground
Coils go away when getting hot, should have a wire connector body at the coil, center wire is positive, should be able to remove the connector body at the time of failure and check for positive feed, signal ground, put your test light clamp on a postive and check the negatives while cranking, the light should flash. If you have positive and grounds flashing, it is your coil.
The ignition module sends grounds to the coil on engine rotation. if you don't have the flashing ground to the coil, the problem is your module.
Make sure you have power from your ignition relay before checking parts, it is easy to start pointing to hard parts as the failures, we are all guilty of it because it is "easy"
Hey Brother, when testing the module, should I disconnect the ground lead wire from the ignition module connected to the ground side of the coil post when cranking it over to check for ground flashing? Or do I leave it connected to the coil ground post for testing? Should I connect the negative end of the test light directly to the lead module ground wire (disconnected from the coil post) to test (ground lead wire from module) for flashing ground to the module when cranking it over? Should the positive side of the test light be connected to the positive battery post or the positive post on the coil to properly perform this test?
Just a back yard mechanic trying to fix my 98' Heritage.

Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.

Thanks, The Breeze...............
 
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Old Dec 9, 2019 | 03:02 PM
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Hey Dude! This post is originally from 2010- alot of people will pass it by. Start a NEW post of your own- someone will chime in.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 07:18 AM
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Start a new thread, this one has been dead for 9 years.

Give info on model and year, and any mods made, what type of ignition.

Note: the way you have written your post makes it damn near impossible to follow.

Take a deep breath, and settle down a bit...AND LOSE THE CAPS.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan89FLSTC
Start a new thread, this one has been dead for 9 years.

Give info on model and year, and any mods made, what type of ignition.

Note: the way you have written your post makes it damn near impossible to follow.

Take a deep breath, and settle down a bit...AND LOSE THE CAPS.
Ok. I guess to much information. New to this site, how do I start a new Thread?
 
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Old Dec 10, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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Figured it out! Thanks..............
 
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 09:33 AM
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Can anyone specifically tell me what electronics are in that module?

And what type of issues does it specifically cause when it falters?

I've gone through the entire ignition system and it would seem the real issue is in the module and not the new ignition breaker, coil and cam sensor I've already put in.

The problem went from an occasional shut down, like the kill switch was on stopping the motor only. All other electrical works perfectly during the "stalls".

This problem resolved itself at first by simply turning the ignition off and back on and it would fire right up and run perfectly.

It progressed to more stalling, often in as quick as only a few minutes idling in the drive now.

The outcome is no spark for several minutes. Then it runs perfectly for a short period and stalls.

Last time out it required lots of cooling time before restarting and running for a short period.

I've heated the module which is on the steering crown and no where near the high heat of the motor. The result was no failure while testing.

Am I right to "assume" that the module is the last major component I need to replace?

I don't believe there is any issue with the kill switch, the anti-dive module, and I'm going to test the replacement ignition breaker for a loss of power when this happens next time I can tear it apart and test for a faulty "non OEM" breaker. The breaker is rated correctly but could still be the issue by the way it acts.

Cool off and restart went from seconds to turn the power off, hear the new breaker reset, and it fired right up. Now it stalls quickly after getting warmed up and takes a lot longer to get the spark to return.

I know it's not fuel issues, although I went through and drained the tank as a precaution before I was certain the spark was missing when it stalled. I took a lot of crud out of the tank and replaced the slighlty cracked petcock with a new aftermarket with a fresh filter. This process has given me a new issue with the float needle valve hanging up and then gas overflow when parked. I don't believe the issue is in the carb but will have to clean out the bowl and to stop this other "new" issue.

Anything you can tell me will help? I wrench my own bikes, always have for 40 years. I have a solid background in electronics, and mechanics.

I'm tired of chasing this gremlin!
This is a long story, so pull up a chair.I have a 1999 Heritage Softail Classic 1340 EVO. Had the same problem, started with the bike just wouldn't start. Being that it was my first Harley and didn't have a clue, I had a reputable dealer sevice place come get it and do a full service and fix. Cost me almost another grand but seemed to fix it. A few months later it cut out on me and wouldn't start. Luckily it was close to the house, Had it towed home and found ignition mod fried. Thinking that was the problem I replaced (myself this time) and seemed to fix it till a few months later it did it again. So this time I rented a trailer and took to an even more reputable one out of town. They seemed to have fixed it. Actually they bypassed and removed the mod all together. Well a couple of months later it kept cutting out after warming up. So I change coils and that fixed that but battery wouldn't hold a charge. So I changed votage regulator and the bike has run great ever since. KNOCK ON WOOD, seriouly, cause I was getting ready to hire someone to see how many cars they could jump with it. The first place I took it to supposidly change everything I did plus the stator. So moral to the story is gremlins breed gremlins it is a matter of catching the right gremlin first.
 
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 01:36 PM
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dsayer4music
This is a long story, so pull up a chair.
Instead of a long story, can you just make your point?
 
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Old Apr 10, 2022 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dsayer4music
This is a long story, so pull up a chair.
A good story is alright but trying to read that mess. No thanks

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