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Intermediate
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 26
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From: Wausau,WI.
I have a 2011 CVO roadglide, do these models have a different ecm flash than non CVO Harleys. If so will the CVO flash allow me more room for changes without a different flash. The reason I ask is that I am taking off the stock exhaust and replacing it with a 2010 Roadglide Custom 2 into 1 with the cat. removed and stock CVO muffler. Thanks for input!
Banned
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 275
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From: Maryland
OOOOOPPPPPS got the o2 sensors backwards
Yes,, I will admit it,,during my swap from stock to Rinehart true duals
I looked at the service manual and installed the o2psensors per the
picture in the book,,,,problem was my bike had the plugs installed opposite
from the pic in the service manual so I ended up reversing the o2 sensors,,
I did my tuning runs and sent my map off to Jamie at Fuel Moto and he asked me to double check the install of my o2 sensors,,sure enough he was correct!!
so now I will get the o2 sensors set up correctly and do some more tuning runs,,
does anyone know how bad having the o2 sensors reverse is??how could one tell by looking at my fuel MAP?
I looked at the service manual and installed the o2psensors per the
picture in the book,,,,problem was my bike had the plugs installed opposite
from the pic in the service manual so I ended up reversing the o2 sensors,,
I did my tuning runs and sent my map off to Jamie at Fuel Moto and he asked me to double check the install of my o2 sensors,,sure enough he was correct!!
so now I will get the o2 sensors set up correctly and do some more tuning runs,,
does anyone know how bad having the o2 sensors reverse is??how could one tell by looking at my fuel MAP?
Cruiser
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 107
Likes: 2
The easiest way to make sure you are recording all of the signals you need is to use the 319245 code, which will automatically record all of the data you need, which you can then fetch and bring into log tuner. I highly recommend you read Just Dennis' guide (link in his signature line) for details. Quick read and will put you on the right path. Good luck.
TedMan
TedMan
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 61
From: Albany, OR
Was riding today and noticed something funny. I'm done with tuning for the time being and just had regular gauges up. One of those is demanded AFR. I just wanted to watch and be sure it looked right according to my table. All is good except for idle after the bike is warm. Once warm the idle showed the wrong AFR, 14.4 which is what I'm using in cruise range. I'd blip the throttle in case something was stuck, no change. In my 20 KPa column I have 13.0 750-2000 and 12.5 2250+. The 27 KPa column is 14.4 750-3000. Idle wouldn't be at 27KPa? I'd think it would be lower. I was going to look for a KPa item for a gauge but forgot about it and had to get home. I'm curious what my KPa is at idle once warm. The AFR table might need adjustment, I don't want to sit in traffic with 14.4 AFR.
Anybody got any ideas?
Having the AFR as one of your gauges is handy. You can see the effects of warm up enrichment, decel enleanment, and acceleration enrichment. It would probably assist those of you having decel popping by seeing what the AFR goes to as you coast to a stop. Mine drops to 12.5 - 12.8 and I don't have any popping. Then once stopped the AFR goes back to 14.4 (which is the above problem).
Anybody got any ideas?
Having the AFR as one of your gauges is handy. You can see the effects of warm up enrichment, decel enleanment, and acceleration enrichment. It would probably assist those of you having decel popping by seeing what the AFR goes to as you coast to a stop. Mine drops to 12.5 - 12.8 and I don't have any popping. Then once stopped the AFR goes back to 14.4 (which is the above problem).
Road Warrior
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,251
Likes: 30
From: Ashburn, VA
Was riding today and noticed something funny. I'm done with tuning for the time being and just had regular gauges up. One of those is demanded AFR. I just wanted to watch and be sure it looked right according to my table. All is good except for idle after the bike is warm. Once warm the idle showed the wrong AFR, 14.4 which is what I'm using in cruise range. I'd blip the throttle in case something was stuck, no change. In my 20 KPa column I have 13.0 750-2000 and 12.5 2250+. The 27 KPa column is 14.4 750-3000. Idle wouldn't be at 27KPa? I'd think it would be lower. I was going to look for a KPa item for a gauge but forgot about it and had to get home. I'm curious what my KPa is at idle once warm. The AFR table might need adjustment, I don't want to sit in traffic with 14.4 AFR.
Anybody got any ideas?
Having the AFR as one of your gauges is handy. You can see the effects of warm up enrichment, decel enleanment, and acceleration enrichment. It would probably assist those of you having decel popping by seeing what the AFR goes to as you coast to a stop. Mine drops to 12.5 - 12.8 and I don't have any popping. Then once stopped the AFR goes back to 14.4 (which is the above problem).
Anybody got any ideas?
Having the AFR as one of your gauges is handy. You can see the effects of warm up enrichment, decel enleanment, and acceleration enrichment. It would probably assist those of you having decel popping by seeing what the AFR goes to as you coast to a stop. Mine drops to 12.5 - 12.8 and I don't have any popping. Then once stopped the AFR goes back to 14.4 (which is the above problem).
I wouldn't worry about it. I leave mine at 14.6 for most of my AFR map and let closed loop handle it except for the 20 kpa column, above 80 kpa columns, and above 4000.
I am thinking of making a 13.8 summer map though just to keep loaded in the PV for those REALLY hot days.
Road Master
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,237
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From: Albany, OR
You can use MAP sensor to see kpa. Idle is around 30+ kpa stock and even higher with cams. I have tuned out almost all my decel popping by tuning the 20 kpa range similar to yours.
I wouldn't worry about it. I leave mine at 14.6 for most of my AFR map and let closed loop handle it except for the 20 kpa column, above 80 kpa columns, and above 4000.
I am thinking of making a 13.8 summer map though just to keep loaded in the PV for those REALLY hot days.
I wouldn't worry about it. I leave mine at 14.6 for most of my AFR map and let closed loop handle it except for the 20 kpa column, above 80 kpa columns, and above 4000.
I am thinking of making a 13.8 summer map though just to keep loaded in the PV for those REALLY hot days.
Road Captain
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 548
Likes: 7
From: Pittsburgh, PA
Was riding today and noticed something funny. I'm done with tuning for the time being and just had regular gauges up. One of those is demanded AFR. I just wanted to watch and be sure it looked right according to my table. All is good except for idle after the bike is warm. Once warm the idle showed the wrong AFR, 14.4 which is what I'm using in cruise range. I'd blip the throttle in case something was stuck, no change. In my 20 KPa column I have 13.0 750-2000 and 12.5 2250+. The 27 KPa column is 14.4 750-3000. Idle wouldn't be at 27KPa? I'd think it would be lower. I was going to look for a KPa item for a gauge but forgot about it and had to get home. I'm curious what my KPa is at idle once warm. The AFR table might need adjustment, I don't want to sit in traffic with 14.4 AFR.
Anybody got any ideas?
Having the AFR as one of your gauges is handy. You can see the effects of warm up enrichment, decel enleanment, and acceleration enrichment. It would probably assist those of you having decel popping by seeing what the AFR goes to as you coast to a stop. Mine drops to 12.5 - 12.8 and I don't have any popping. Then once stopped the AFR goes back to 14.4 (which is the above problem).
Anybody got any ideas?
Having the AFR as one of your gauges is handy. You can see the effects of warm up enrichment, decel enleanment, and acceleration enrichment. It would probably assist those of you having decel popping by seeing what the AFR goes to as you coast to a stop. Mine drops to 12.5 - 12.8 and I don't have any popping. Then once stopped the AFR goes back to 14.4 (which is the above problem).
Member
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I'm hoping this is a simple question. Is there any way to turn the knock control ON and OFF for a particular map directly from within the PV? Or can the Knock control only be turned ON/OFF from within WinPV?
Which would mean the only way to have a map with knock control ON and the same map with the Knock Control OFF is to use 2 of the 6 slots on the PV.
Can anyone help with this relatively simple question? I don't see any knock control feature in the tune edit menu on the PV, so any direction on how to make this change to a map without the use of a laptop would be appreciated. Thanks
Which would mean the only way to have a map with knock control ON and the same map with the Knock Control OFF is to use 2 of the 6 slots on the PV.
Can anyone help with this relatively simple question? I don't see any knock control feature in the tune edit menu on the PV, so any direction on how to make this change to a map without the use of a laptop would be appreciated. Thanks
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Road Warrior
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,549
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From: Upstate SC
Yes,, I will admit it,,during my swap from stock to Rinehart true duals
I looked at the service manual and installed the o2psensors per the
picture in the book,,,,problem was my bike had the plugs installed opposite
from the pic in the service manual so I ended up reversing the o2 sensors,,
I did my tuning runs and sent my map off to Jamie at Fuel Moto and he asked me to double check the install of my o2 sensors,,sure enough he was correct!!
so now I will get the o2 sensors set up correctly and do some more tuning runs,,
does anyone know how bad having the o2 sensors reverse is??how could one tell by looking at my fuel MAP?
I looked at the service manual and installed the o2psensors per the
picture in the book,,,,problem was my bike had the plugs installed opposite
from the pic in the service manual so I ended up reversing the o2 sensors,,
I did my tuning runs and sent my map off to Jamie at Fuel Moto and he asked me to double check the install of my o2 sensors,,sure enough he was correct!!
so now I will get the o2 sensors set up correctly and do some more tuning runs,,
does anyone know how bad having the o2 sensors reverse is??how could one tell by looking at my fuel MAP?
Question 1 - in column MAP20 on PV for my 2011 SG, will there be a big differance in MPG and cooling if my AFR is lowered from 14.4 -14.0 to 13.6 ? I have a canned Map from FM. My current MAP from 30-80KPA is all set to 14.4. Dynojet has a perf improved and they set the AFR to 14.0 across..
Question 2 - i have been doing Basic tuning with the PV. The adaptive Control is set to 1 (on) - to what i understand if i tune below 14.2 AFR, i need to select Adaptive control to 0 (off) after I am happy with my VE tables ( open loop) ? is this correct.. Been since last year i played with the PV... began reading all the threads and now i got confused again.... I dont have the AT option with my PV.
Question 2 - i have been doing Basic tuning with the PV. The adaptive Control is set to 1 (on) - to what i understand if i tune below 14.2 AFR, i need to select Adaptive control to 0 (off) after I am happy with my VE tables ( open loop) ? is this correct.. Been since last year i played with the PV... began reading all the threads and now i got confused again.... I dont have the AT option with my PV.