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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ06
so I could save a current tune as say, closedloop001.pvt, modify my fuel table to look like this, save, send to PV, flash ECM, run a couple data logs, go through the PV Log tuner to Win PV process of calculating the tune to get the VE adjustments, save new .pvt, then return my fuel tables to what they were before saving as closedloop001.pvt , save new .pvt, send to PV, flash ECM, and this would allow me to get the corrected VEs in place even with an open loop map running?
If you are using the Fuel Moto calibration we supplied it is already a closed loop map so you will not need to make any changes to it. Looking thru your posts you may be missing one of the steps in the Log Tuner process. You are welcome to contact us for help.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
If you are using the Fuel Moto calibration we supplied it is already a closed loop map so you will not need to make any changes to it. Looking thru your posts you may be missing one of the steps in the Log Tuner process. You are welcome to contact us for help.
I did mention to call for help, I made a call and the help is great at FM.. great product, excellent service... everything working well for me here... it is a learning process.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fuelmoto
If you are using the Fuel Moto calibration we supplied it is already a closed loop map so you will not need to make any changes to it. Looking thru your posts you may be missing one of the steps in the Log Tuner process. You are welcome to contact us for help.
I do need to call, work prevents me from calling during your normal working hours. Hopefully I can find some time prior to this weekend to call you all.
Thanks for the info and assistance.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JimmyZ06
I have WinPV opened in Pro and I do not see ACR under limits and switches anywhere. Why is that?
So, I had the same problem however after messing around for a while I noticed that sometimes the tunes have alot less information. If you load the tune into the bike then "Copy Current Tune" back on to the PV, when looking at the current tune, you will then see more editable items.

I didn't see ACR or ETIMS on or off Temp untill I did what i stated above.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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would love to see an example after looking at the newly Calc tune from Log tuner and what adjustments to be made when looking at the knock R&F tables after the Calc tune so i can get rid of my knocking issue.. dont know how to post my tables on the thread for observations..
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:44 AM
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Called Jamie at FM, easy fix to actually be able to "see" datalog changes in the Log Tuner software. I didnt know that with a 2012 "CAN" system you had to hit CTRL E to get the Log Tuner software to go into CAN mode. Did, works like a charm!
Thanks Jamie! Superior customer service at FuelMoto!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ducatidesmo
So, I had the same problem however after messing around for a while I noticed that sometimes the tunes have alot less information. If you load the tune into the bike then "Copy Current Tune" back on to the PV, when looking at the current tune, you will then see more editable items.

I didn't see ACR or ETIMS on or off Temp untill I did what i stated above.
Thanks! I will try that this weekend
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Note that the copy tune rounds off the numbers I dont think its a big deal with the VEs. However on my saved copies I made sure I kept exact numbers on timeing tables. Other sneaky number changes like I had idle set at 975 it will come back at 976
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Thanks for that heads up! So i'm assuming you just modify the currently loaded tune (that was just downloaded) with the tune that was either supplied or created?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Does anyone have a tune for a 2004 88Ci engine that has a Screamin' Eagle Stage 1 Air Cleaner and Rinehart True Dual exhausts? I understand that tunes from 2002 - 2005 may also work on my bike.

The tune that is on the bike is from a previous owner and isn't doing too well for me this summer. I am experiencing poor performance as well as poor, <35MPG, fuel mileage at cruise of 65-70MPH, about 2800-3000 RPM. It seems to be tuned for running 45-55 MPH, about 2000-2500 RPM as I can get about 55 MPG at those speeds. Anything above that and everything goes down hill. It is a dyno tune, but from what I understand, it was done in the coldest parts of winter.

I will settle for screen shots of the AFR table, front and rear VE tables, as well as the front and rear spark tables.

I have uploaded copies of the AFR and VE Tables from my current tune. Any ideas what I can change? I tried changing the AFR to 14.4 and I get some improvement. 14.5 for AFR and I start to lose serious power and fuel mileage. I don't have the cash to spen almost $400 for the AutoTune module at this time. I also do not like the VE tables as it seems the rear cylinder is set to be a lot leaner then the front cylinder.
 
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