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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 08:15 AM
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Wolf No problem.
I am glad you found something to get your mind around.
I read it more than a few time and Go back and reread the PV manual too it helps to understand what you need to do first and following the Steps in order is a must when you are first learning. I am still learning also.


One thing to remember stage 1 is not a lot different than stock but Just enough it needs a little tweak here & there.


Trust the PV It's a great tool But you must understand it to use it.


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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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Warmup Enrichment?

I recently removed my 255 cams and installed the Andrews 57h. I love these cams, they come alive at 2500 rpm on up and I get really good response in the lower rpm areas...HOWEVER!!!

The bike runs like crap when the engine is cold.
The symptoms?
Cuts out through the lower rpm ranges (from idle until about 2300 rpms)
Sputters off idle when taking off.
Once the engine reaches operating temperature it runs fine so was looking at the warmup enrichment table and was wondering if adjusting this would help.

Does anyone have any experience with this table?

Thanks
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
Warmup Enrichment?

I recently removed my 255 cams and installed the Andrews 57h. I love these cams, they come alive at 2500 rpm on up and I get really good response in the lower rpm areas...HOWEVER!!!

The bike runs like crap when the engine is cold.
The symptoms?
Cuts out through the lower rpm ranges (from idle until about 2300 rpms)
Sputters off idle when taking off.
Once the engine reaches operating temperature it runs fine so was looking at the warmup enrichment table and was wondering if adjusting this would help.

Does anyone have any experience with this table?

Thanks
Dave
are you using the same 255 tune file for this 57H cam?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
are you using the same 255 tune file for this 57H cam?
No. I build tunes from scratch using the stock map as a starting point.
So the warmup settings would be set for a stock 2013 103.
 

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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:36 PM
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I would try this before fooling with the enrichment.

take the 10 and 20 kpa VE columns from 750 through 2000 RPMS and increase those numbers by 10%. See if that makes a difference when it's cold.

I'm also assuming you've done some auto tune runs to dial in your VE tables correct? If you haven't then ignore the above and get after dialing in your VEs as it will run like crap until they're dialed in.

Can you post your map up here so we can look at it?
 

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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
I would try this before fooling with the enrichment.

take the 10 and 20 kpa VE columns from 750 through 2000 RPMS and increase those numbers by 10%. See if that makes a difference when it's cold.

I'm also assuming you've done some auto tune runs to dial in your VE tables correct?

Can you post your map up here so we can look at it?
Thanks, I'll go ahead and try that.

I would have to learn how to upload my map to the forum and feedback would be appreciated.

The VEs only show TP percent
 

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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
Thanks, I'll go ahead and try that.

I would have to learn how to upload my map to the forum and feedback would be appreciated.
you would need to sign up for one of the freebie services like dropbox.com, box.com etc. upload your map there, then share the link with us to grab it
 
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraNutZ
you would need to sign up for one of the freebie services like dropbox.com, box.com etc. upload your map there, then share the link with us to grab it
OK I can do that.


I edited my last post.
The VEs only show TP percent
 
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 01:07 PM
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OK here it is try not to laugh to hard.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ahdoziuil...90714.pvt?dl=0
 
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Old Sep 10, 2014 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JustDave13
OK here it is try not to laugh to hard.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ahdoziuil...90714.pvt?dl=0
yikes.. yep. increase those 2 columns by 10% and see how she reacts.
 
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